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02-25-2013, 12:00 AM #1
30x24x18 Heating Questions ECT.....
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02-25-2013, 11:51 AM #2
a uth will dry the substrate out faster, not keep the humidity up.
hmmm...for probe placement. that's a good question. having rescued both geckos and snakes with terrible burns, I tend to like to place the probe where it should be hottest and dial in the upper limit, so that the heat source can't ever overdo it.Morelia spilota harrisoni * Morelia spilota mcdowelli * Liasis fuscus * Liasis mackloti * Liasis mackloti savuensis * Liasis olivaceous olivaceous* Anteresia maculosa * Python regius * Gekko gecko * Correlophus ciliatus * Blaesodactylus boivini * Lepidodactylus lugubris
02-25-2013, 11:58 AM #3
02-25-2013, 12:00 PM #4
yeah, but he's already using a CHE and wants to add a UTH. the UTH will dry out the substrate. try a UTH with a planted tank, and you'll have a post-apocalyptic viv in a pretty short time (this is not simply due to heat).Morelia spilota harrisoni * Morelia spilota mcdowelli * Liasis fuscus * Liasis mackloti * Liasis mackloti savuensis * Liasis olivaceous olivaceous* Anteresia maculosa * Python regius * Gekko gecko * Correlophus ciliatus * Blaesodactylus boivini * Lepidodactylus lugubris
02-25-2013, 04:25 PM #5
Actually reprobate doesn't get very moose itself but there is quite a build up of water in the bottom layer so figured would be no diffrrnt
02-27-2013, 11:14 PM #6
1) Help keep the mulch from rotting and growing mold by drying it out in between mistings.
2) This does raise the humidity by evaporating the water in the substrate.
3) The UTH helps keep the entire enclosure up to tropical temperature and not just a hot spot.
02-27-2013, 11:19 PM #7
Bill, what would you suggest as a wattage? I've never tried a UTH with my planted vertical enclosures.
the two people I know who set their geckos up in the way you suggested had arid substrate, turning me off that method.
perhaps they were not misting adequately?
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02-27-2013, 11:36 PM #8
The trick is to have a good layer of substrate of several inches. I use Cyprus on top of an inch of Hydro-balls, expanded clay balls. The other trick is to adjust the UTH thermostat to balance the drying effect. Too cold, and you have a swamp in the rainy season. Too hot, like in the dry season, and you have the desert kindle you've seen.
So right now I'm misting 4 times a day with a heavy soaking for one of them. It's the rainy/breeding season. The rooms are a bit cooler, (high 80's day/mid 70'2 night), than summer months but I have the under heat up a bit to off-set the monsoon.
For folks with a single enclosure in a typical house, the under heat is the saving grace for keeping the Tropical enclosure up to temps.
Come summer, the misting will fall off to 2 short mistings a day and the ambient temps will be in the high 90's down to the high 80's, but I'll dial back, or turn off the under heat depending how I'm misting them.
I find if I can almost dry out the substrate daily it will last all baby season. 7 months.
03-01-2013, 11:52 PM #9
03-02-2013, 12:48 AM #10
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I'm not sure I'd like the screen to be over 85 degrees.
My rooms are temperature regulated so there is no 'hot spots' from ceramics. Understandably most folks are working with a single enclosure in a typical room in their house. So they need to get almost a 20 degree temperature lift in the enclosure.
In a normal room I've used two under heat pads, one under the enclosure and another against the back. This plus the ceramic, or heat lamp a couple of inches above the screen and dialed back so as not to burn the screen. This would project enough heat into the core of the enclosure while the back and bottom radiated enough heat to balance out the enclosure.
Monitoring the screen temp is important for safety but the core temp is what your after. I like using the Pro Exotics PE-2 Infrared Temp Gun, ( Temp Gun PE-2 - Temp/Humdity Monitoring | Josh's Frogs ) for spot checking and monitoring in addition to the probe.
I hope that helps,