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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxraddict View Post
    Just read it

    I didn’t know there are 24x18x24 without a doubt will likely do that instead.
    Did you read the entire thread? Billewicz has kept many tokays!

    It seems like a pair of tokays would really thrive in what you had originally planned: a 24 x 18 x 36 Exo!
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    Here's a quote from billewicz on post 6 of the care sheet thread.

    4) As other have noted, specifying enclosures at 18" tall will be fine for juvenile Tokay, but young adults will need 24" in vertical area in their first year. After that, Long term adults will need 30"+ to navigate comfortably.

    I think it's only fair to tell would-be first time Tokay owners up front what they will need for housing so they can decide whether they will purchase or build in steps over time, or save on the total investment and buy/build one enclosure.
    Based upon that advice, I'd set up your 18 x 18 x 24 as their temporary home instead of the 40 gallon breeder.
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    I added the vines Elizabeth

    Also I really donít know if Iíll stress them by moving them before theyíre settled into the new surroundings?

    I ordered 2 more 18x18x24 but I kind of need them for my cresteds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxraddict View Post
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    I added the vines Elizabeth

    Also I really don’t know if I’ll stress them by moving them before they’re settled into the new surroundings?

    I ordered 2 more 18x18x24 but I kind of need them for my cresteds
    Thanks.

    About what total length are these tokays? If you twist this vine on itself there is a thicker surface to climb upon.

    When do you anticipate your tokay upgrade? Switching to an 18 x 18 x 24 now depends upon how well they're doing.

    Please pay attention to lighting and heating recommendations in that care sheet . . . . . including billewicz's comments on post 6.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-07-2019 at 06:10 PM.
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    8-9” in total length

    And I did yes I read it thoroughly. Combing that right now there’s a 75w heat bulb + 2 house bulbs + 1 red bulb (night only).
    I also am considering a heat mat stuck to the side of their next enclosure regulated by a thermostat. They can move to that side and away from it depending on how cool or how warm they need it. That I got from more caresheets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxraddict View Post
    8-9” in total length

    And I did yes I read it thoroughly. Combing that right now there’s a 75w heat bulb + 2 house bulbs + 1 red bulb (night only).
    I also am considering a heat mat stuck to the side of their next enclosure regulated by a thermostat. They can move to that side and away from it depending on how cool or how warm they need it. That I got from more caresheets.
    I've not had time to read up on best practices for heating or lighting. Geckos CAN see all visible light. Please consider using a ceramic heat emitter on a thermostat for night heat. CHEs produce heat but no light.

    I've never been impressed with sticking a heat mat to the side of an enclosure. Since heat rises, little heat would warm the gecko's home.

    Here's the link from the search I just did that shows many articles.

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-10-2019 at 05:51 AM. Reason: The first tokay search I linked disappeared. :(
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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    I would definitely use a ceramic bulb for heat, and use it 24/7.

    more height is always better for Tokays.

    as far as age, the concern I have is that if they're subadults, they'll breed before the female is mature enough to handle the stress on her body. this could result in problems down the road. if she's not yet fully mature, they should be separated ASAP until she is.
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    Ok good info good, thanks you guys.

    I plan to get them out of here within The next week. I have two extra large And one jumbo pieces of bark coming to cut up and use in different ways for their upgrade. Before I got them I researched them and found care videos on them and miscellaneous videos on them too. I got ideas from the setups I found on there.

    I did redo the current one for now though. Below is the best I will do until get their tall tank.

    Showed them to the vet they were sexed properly. Male and female which I already suspected when I looked at their undersides through the glass.
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    I heard back from the shop they said those are near 3 years old.

    Ok so one more
    If I put them in an 18x18x24 itíd be temporary but still better then the old 40!
    One more extra move

    I am using a CHE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxraddict View Post
    I heard back from the shop they said those are near 3 years old.

    Ok so one more
    If I put them in an 18x18x24 it’d be temporary but still better then the old 40!
    One more extra move

    I am using a CHE
    Excellent with the CHE!

    When will you be upgrading to their spacious home? Will it still be a 24 x 18 x 36 inch Exo?

    If you're upgrading soon, I'd wait.

    If you're not upgrading till September, I'd "borrow" one of your new crestie 18 x 18 x 24 inch tall enclosures until then.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-10-2019 at 06:08 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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