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    I came from vacation and I had a Hatchling. It hatched just a several days before my arrival I had my sister care for the adults but didn't realize the egg hatched. I'm still waiting on clutch mate.

    Everything seemed fine but it fell about a foot on to the soft substrate and seized up and started twitching. Finally snapped out of it and moves fine. It's pretty active and when I try to pet it, it acts like a normal adult Tokay (gaping mouth, cute soft bark). I put fake vines and plants to catch it if it falls again. 3 days after the fall I continue to find it constantly falling and lays on back and doesn't move unless I blow air, spray water, or touch it. It springs into life and runs. But every so often it falls and stays stiff (breathing) but won't move unless I make contact.

    This is my first Hatchling and info on the internet is impossible to find and no exotic vets that can help. Temps and humidity is good so IDK what to do. If it dies maybe I can learn something for the next batch when they hatch
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    where is it falling from? off a branch when it's trying to walk? off the glass surface? how many days has this been?

    also, we need clear pitctures of the gecko and the enclosure.
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    I can't provide pics, and I think it's irrelevant. He falls off everything including branches, and twitches. Doesn't even matter the height of the fall. Could be an inch and he lands on back and stiffens up and twitches. He can walk up glass and wood and hang on for hours, then all of a sudden drops and twitches
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    I have never had a Tokay, and I don't know how to care for one, but, and these are just my thoughts, please don't bite my head off if I am wrong, could he be having seizures?

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    pictures are always relevant when trying to troubleshoot problems with your gecko. if there was something about his appearance or enclosure that could be contributing to the problem we may be able to spot it.

    ideally, we'd get video of him having an episode. also a rundown of his diet, pooping habits, and temps plus humidity. all of these things matter if you're having trouble with your gecko.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warwick555 View Post
    I can't provide pics, and I think it's irrelevant. He falls off everything including branches, and twitches. Doesn't even matter the height of the fall. Could be an inch and he lands on back and stiffens up and twitches. He can walk up glass and wood and hang on for hours, then all of a sudden drops and twitches
    Hi ~

    This sounds like blood calcium issues with your hatchling.

    How do you supplement this tokay's parents?

    May I ask which supplements you use? Please include brand, name, & frequency.

    What feeders do you use? What diet do you feed the feeders?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

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    I feed the parents crickets only because that's all they'll eat. They don't touch worms and only the male eats mice rarely (once a month or two). Male eats dubias but they like to burrow so it's difficult. I use calcium with d3 only as a supplement. I forced a little in the baby's mouth by making him gape and putting in. His symptoms do seem like a lack of calcium but since he just hatched a week ago he doesn't want to eat. I'll buy pin heads to see if he'll eat again. My female has laid a few bad eggs mixed with good so maybe the female has issues and passed it on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warwick555 View Post
    I feed the parents crickets only because that's all they'll eat. They don't touch worms and only the male eats mice rarely (once a month or two). Male eats dubias but they like to burrow so it's difficult. I use calcium with d3 only as a supplement. I forced a little in the baby's mouth by making him gape and putting in. His symptoms do seem like a lack of calcium but since he just hatched a week ago he doesn't want to eat. I'll buy pin heads to see if he'll eat again. My female has laid a few bad eggs mixed with good so maybe the female has issues and passed it on
    Excellent move with your D3 calcium! Pinheads may be too small. How about 1/8 inch crickets?

    Buy small waxworms to jump-start your hatchling's appetite. That worked for me several years ago. It just took 1-2 waxworms and that gecko was good to go! Then on to small crickets.

    Which brand of D3 calcium are you using? All supplements are different.

    Did you mix your D3 calcium powder with water when you gave some to your hatchling? Did he swallow it?

    How frequently do you lightly powder the adults' crickets?

    An Anchor brand 8 ounce clear glass feeding bowl contains dubia well.
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Excellent move with your D3 calcium! Pinheads may be too small. How about 1/8 inch crickets?

    Buy small waxworms to jump-start your hatchling's appetite. That worked for me several years ago. It just took 1-2 waxworms and that gecko was good to go! Then on to small crickets.

    Which brand of D3 calcium are you using? All supplements are different.

    Did you mix your D3 calcium powder with water when you gave some to your hatchling? Did he swallow it?

    How frequently do you lightly powder the adults' crickets?

    An Anchor brand 8 ounce clear glass feeding bowl contains dubia well.
    It's in a small cricket container now I transferred it from my 40 gal to that. I'm using zoo med repticalcium with d3. I put a mixture of pinheads with slightly larger baby crickets that are the size of its mouth it got stressed and seized up with the twitches. I have superworms of all sizes from extremely small to very large. It won't eat the superworm and the superworm just bites my gecko. So I removed it. My adults refuse any kind of worms also. When I forced the calcium it was dry at first and it licked it off it's mouth, then I put some in water and kinda "pasted" it on its mouth and it licked it off.. Seems like just one cricket stresses it out but I'm afraid it's malnourished so I want it to eat.
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    BTW thanks everyone for the help. I do appreciate it

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