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Old 09-15-2009, 06:16 AM
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Default ID [Solved] Hemidactylus tanganicus

I found the opportunity in Hamm to buy 1:2 CB. The seller (Happy Reptiles | Home) was unsure but he thought the parents came from Tanzania. I have seen Vierfleck's thread and my geckos do not look at all like his. There are very few details on the net about this species and subspecies and I just wondered if there were no ID error. The seller told me he kept them in a horizontally-oriented, semi-arid vivarium. I use the same temps and hygro as those usually given for Hemitheconyx caudincinctus as the supposed range of H. brooki covers the same countries in West Africa, plus Senegal and arid zones in Eastern Africa (Somalia, Erithrea, Tanzania). I settled them down with a 1 inch deep fine sand substrate, cork bark oak pieces and vertically oriented flat rocks as hides. Since I'm back, I have sprayed them every evening with lukewarm water, which they seem to like. At least one of the females is gravid for sure, if I have some breeding I will add here futher details.

Here are my pics, so...Hemidactylus brooki(i) angulatus or not?
By the way, what's the correct spelling: brooki or brookii? I found both on the scarce Internet data.

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They are about 120-130 mm total length and store fat in their tails. They seem mainly ground-dwelling though they can climb well on rocks and glass and are not very fast geckos.
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Hello Herve,

looks like light H.tanganicus to me,because these are the most exported Hemidactylus from Tanzania.My tanganicus are darker and have more contrast.Try to make a photo at night,when they are active.

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Matthias, these animals are very similar to mine. Do you have any hint on the rarity of H. tanganicus in captivity and about their biotope/care? It would be much appreciated.
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Hello Herve,

i keep them semi dry,a plant,some sticks to climb and cork bark to hide behind or under,nothing special.They are good eaters.

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Here are my pics, so...Hemidactylus brooki(i) angulatus or not?
By the way, what's the correct spelling: brooki or brookii? I found both on the scarce Internet data.

Any link to a publication would be appreciated, as well as care tips from
Thr correct spelling is Hemidactylus brookii or Hemidactylus angulatus ( H.angulatus is not longer a subspecies of H.brookii ).

I keep H. brookii and H.angulatus by myself, but my ones looks a liitle bit different than yours ( darker colors and darker pattern ).

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Thanks a lot to both of you.

I contacted the curator of the reptile collection in MNHN in Paris (National Museum of Natural History), he said to me those were H. brookii for sure, and probably from Eastern Africa, those of the Guinea Gulf countries and Western Africa look indeed darker and a bit different. Sebastian, that would maybe explain the differences you underline between your specimens and mine. Got them from Happy Reptiles | Home if that helps
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Thanks a lot to both of you.

I contacted the curator of the reptile collection in MNHN in Paris (National Museum of Natural History), he said to me those were H. brookii for sure, and probably from Eastern Africa, those of the Guinea Gulf countries and Western Africa look indeed darker and a bit different. Sebastian, that would maybe explain the differences you underline between your specimens and mine.
That could be possible for sure. Hemidacytlus brookii are very variable in color and pattern. And im my opion theres maybe a lot of subspecies in den H. brookii komplex. You can see how different the speciemen could be depend on their locality.


by the way your H.brookii looks indeed very nice.

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Hello Herve,

the curator is not on the newest look on their taxonomy.In 2006 Carranza and Arnold said,that brookii were the Asians,the Caribbeans were brookii,too.The Africans are angulatus.So when your animals are from Tanzania,they must be H.angulatus,if they are angulatus.I still say,they look like tanganicus to me.
I send you the paper.

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Thanks a lot Matthias, the curator indeed referred to a book published before 2005
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