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    Hi friends - I found this tiny hitchhiker in my suite case on Saturday. He's about 1 1/2 inches long. I have been looking on-line but can't figure out what kind he is. I'd love your help and advice on how to keep him healthy. I bought a nice cage with day light and night light. Humidity shows tropical and heat is around 72. I got him some crested gecko food and some fruit flies. He's been hiding since I put him in his new home. I've never had a Gecko but now that I have a stow away I'd like to take good care of the little fella. I attached a photo of him.
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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited, Debby!

    You've got a mourning gecko, (Lepidodactylus lugubris). Those were my first geckos way back when. They are parthenogenetic. Females reproduce without the help of males. Males are rare, if any.

    Here's a care sheet for them.

    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Elizabeth - Thank you so much for your expertise. The folks at Pet Smart thought she was a Crested which I didn't think was correct. I have two lights, daylight blue and infrared basking spot. The temp and humidity are right in range of the article you wrote. Because she is so tiny I put some fruit flies in there. They also sold me Crested Gecko food mash. I'm wondering if the Pangea's Complete Diet with insects would be good for her at this early stage of her life. Given she's 1 1/2 inches at the most what would you guess her age to be. She's so adorable. How she made it in all the way in my suite case I'll never know. It's freezing cold right now in Colorado. Just glad I unpacked right when I got home and found her. I so appreciate your assistance with my new little pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debby View Post
    Elizabeth - Thank you so much for your expertise. The folks at Pet Smart thought she was a Crested which I didn't think was correct. I have two lights, daylight blue and infrared basking spot. The temp and humidity are right in range of the article you wrote. Because she is so tiny I put some fruit flies in there. They also sold me Crested Gecko food mash. I'm wondering if the Pangea's Complete Diet with insects would be good for her at this early stage of her life. Given she's 1 1/2 inches at the most what would you guess her age to be. She's so adorable. How she made it in all the way in my suite case I'll never know. It's freezing cold right now in Colorado. Just glad I unpacked right when I got home and found her. I so appreciate your assistance with my new little pal.
    You're welcome, Debby. Be sure to check my care sheet's current version. I just finished editing it.

    In 1984 I saw and caught my very first mourning gecko in Maui. Four years later I returned to Hawaii, this time to Kauai. I caught my next 3 mourning geckos in the condo where we stayed. This time those teeny geckos were bound for Seattle. At that time it was legal to bring them home.

    Your gecko is definitely a hatchling. My hatchlings start out at 1 & 3/8 inches. Mature size is about 3 & 3/4 inches.

    It's a good idea to alternate well-fed live insects with Pangea's Complete Diet with Insects! When feeding fruit flies, temporarily cover the enclosure with a lightweight cloth. She'll still be able to breathe.

    For heating use a 25 watt incandescent bulb over a 10 gallon tank. Exo Terra twisty vines add great climbing opportunities! To make life simple Home Depots sell analog timers for ~$4. Time it for about 12 hours on and 12 hours off. That's fine if the ambient room temps at night are mid-to-high 60s.

    Please check out the recommended supplements my care sheet suggests. Without a weekly dose of calcium with D3 these guys will get MBD (metabolic bone disease).

    I hope you'll enjoy your little buddy. In a year or so you'll have more to share.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 02-18-2019 at 06:32 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Thanks again for all of the great information. I did just spy a fruitfly making a climb up the side. My boyfriend won't be happy if I invest our home with fruit flies...haha. I figured it was worth the risk to give the little fella food she could eat. When I was unpacking on that it was a branch and oh lordy did I scream when it moved. We think she climbed into a swim suite I had outside drying. We only saw one lizard the whole trip and that was at a golf course. This info is very handy. I did make an initial investment of $160 at Petsmart. I have one of the 20 gallon tall tanks that opens both on the top and front. I add some fun stuff for her now that I know more about her. I'll keep you posted. Once again, thank you for taking the time to help me.

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    Mourning geckos readily eat prepared diets such as Pangea, but they really seem to do better with more insects in their diet. Culturing flightless fruit flies is one option, but if you don't want to mess with them, Bean beetles are another option. They don't fly, and their sole diet is dried black eyed peas. They are super easy to culture and work with, and are more nutritious than fruit flies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpin Man View Post
    Mourning geckos readily eat prepared diets such as Pangea, but they really seem to do better with more insects in their diet. Culturing flightless fruit flies is one option, but if you don't want to mess with them, Bean beetles are another option. They don't fly, and their sole diet is dried black eyed peas. They are super easy to culture and work with, and are more nutritious than fruit flies.
    Have you tips for culturing bean beetles beyond their diet?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debby View Post
    Thanks again for all of the great information. I did just spy a fruitfly making a climb up the side. My boyfriend won't be happy if I invest our home with fruit flies...haha. I figured it was worth the risk to give the little fella food she could eat. When I was unpacking on that it was a branch and oh lordy did I scream when it moved. We think she climbed into a swim suite I had outside drying. We only saw one lizard the whole trip and that was at a golf course. This info is very handy. I did make an initial investment of $160 at Petsmart. I have one of the 20 gallon tall tanks that opens both on the top and front. I add some fun stuff for her now that I know more about her. I'll keep you posted. Once again, thank you for taking the time to help me.


    What a lucky lugubris!

    Here's a visual of those Exo Terra jungle vines. I like the effect best when a thin one is twisted with a thicker one. In a 20 regular enclosure you'd have room for both.

    And a handy chart for types.

    GU loves updates!
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Have you tips for culturing bean beetles beyond their diet?
    Yes, I do.
    Use a 32oz deli cup with tiny holes in the lid- the type that are used for culturing fruit flies. Put about a half cup of dried black eyed peas in. Add bean beetles. Top it off with a crumpled paper towel, and wait. They don't reproduce as quickly as fruit flies. The beetles will lay eggs on the peas, then die, and the culture will look empty. But the eggs will hatch, and the larva will consume the peas, and then transform into beetles.
    Keep making new cultures, and keep them someplace warm and dry; excess humidity will spoil the peas.
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    Thank you so much for the tip. I'll research that more and try it out. Right now I'm doing a bit of both, prepared diet and fruit flies. She's so very tiny so I'm just hoping she's getting enough. She's made it now over a week post suitecase and is getting a little bit more active in her cage. I've had several scary days where I didn't see her at all. In these instances is it better to let her be or carefully remove some the of the coverage to find her? I want her to get used to her new enviroment and not be afraid of me when i re-fill her water dish. I was told to use only distilled water to spritz with and fill her water dish? So I switched to that a few days ago. She's just precious. Thank you for the feedback. This newbie has no clue what she's doing but the desire to do it right!

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