giant phantasticus and big tailed ebenaui

**mat.si** · #1 06-25-2007, 11:22 AM

Hi!
Here's a bunch of photos of some of my friend's Uroplatus.
He has some really beautiful animals and does a great job breeding them.
I always enjoy visiting him to see his geckos.
Enjoy the photos!
Matjaz

PS: For any questions and info about these, you can contact him directly on this address (august.gomboc@triera.net)

First, Uroplatus cf.phantasticus (giant phantasticus, malama??). These grow really huge comparing to normal phantasticus.

And second, Uroplatus cf.ebenaui (big tailed ebenaui from Montagne d´Ambre). These guys have big body with a phantasticus size tail.

gollum · #2 06-25-2007, 01:09 PM

Nice animals, Matjaz.
The eyes of my pair Ebenaui are different, more yellow and "electric", do you think a different morph?

the moof · #3 06-25-2007, 01:44 PM

ebanaui eyes depend entirely on the specimen. I've seen some with white eyes, and some with electric red or yellow.

**mat.si** · #4 06-25-2007, 03:21 PM

It's not just the eyes. I personally think it is a different species.
I've heard something from my friend, that these will be described as a new species, but I don't have any more info about that.

Matjaz

Justin · #5 06-25-2007, 03:37 PM

Beautiful animals! Do you know the SVL of the U. cf. phantasticus?

**mat.si** · #6 06-25-2007, 03:47 PM

Hi!
Last year my friend sent me this info for his original giant phantasticus pair. (I already posted this some time ago.)

The male is 11 cm TL and weighs 10 grams.
The female is 13 cm TL and weighs 12 grams.

The normal phantasticus males weigh about 5 grams and females about 7 grams, so his animals are really huge compared to the normal ones.
It has been said that they might even be Uroplatus malama.

Matjaz

Reptiluvr · #7 06-25-2007, 11:14 PM

Uroplatus malama have no spines on the body except for at the base of the jaw near the ear. At times they may be at the very base of the tail. Otherwise they are known to be completely smooth. Unless U. malama was incorrectly described these geckos are either truly some strange giant form of phantasticus or a new species all together. We'll see what happens in the taxonomy world.

The long-tailed ebenaui are indeed from Montagne D'Ambre and I believe will soon be described as yet another new Uroplatus sp.

Geckoholic · #8 06-26-2007, 08:30 PM

Great Pictures Matjaz, thanks for posting them! I am glad to see there are people in Europe that are doing well with uroplatus. Are all of these guys cb? Is your friend working with any other species?

Steve

2007 U.phantasticus hatchling

Protean · #9 06-26-2007, 10:24 PM

Long tailed ebanaui can be found in several locales, Montagne d'Ambre is just the most noted location because most exporters do not know where to look. There are two dry and hot locales and at least 3 cool and humid locales.

Matjaz, great photos. Gasper sent me some of these about a day ago. Great looking animals as always. Looking forward to meeting you both in September (if everything comes together).

jason

**mat.si** · #10 06-27-2007, 06:01 AM

Hi Steve and Jason!
His original animals are wc, but he produced quite a lot of F1 offspring.
He hopes to get some F2 this year.
The successful Uroplatus breeders in Europe (other than guentheri) are still few and far in-between. Far less breeding success than one would assume/hope after many years of importing so many animals.
He's working with a few other species as well, but any additional specimens of Uroplatus (cb or wc) are hard to come by (in Europe) these days.

Jason, I really hope we can finally meet in September.
I also need to ask you a few things, so I'll try to e-mail you tonight.

Matjaz