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Old 04-14-2011, 01:32 PM
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Default Help w/setup, New satanic Leaf tail

hi i just got a satanic leaf tail maybe a month now, i've never seen it shed and i'm not satisfied with googles care results. he hunts small crickets great and i'll spoon feed him a little baby food (organinc banna and mango)(i figure apples and blueberries are common in madagascar does it mater?). and i have this lidquid calcium droper ono once a week. i keep a seperate tank with retipi bark, water, baby food and lots of small crickets. my snake got mites and mild belly rot after 2 weeks of using her portion of repti.
anyone have exp with repti bark? (could just be the snake and its set up)
i had shagum moss at the bottom of my geckos cage (i'll try and load the pic), should i stick with it? i havn't liked eco earth(its too messy).
i have day light(the tropical light) and night glow lights to keep 80-85 F durring the day, room temp 70 F at night. he won't eat meal worm or baby food on its own.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:02 PM
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Uroplatus dont eat, babyfood nor does or should any reptile as it is bad for them..

toss the substrate out if you have had any reptiles with mites in contact with it. Dont take the risk., also some spagnum is a good way to go with uroplatus, as you can plant some ficus direct into the soil., regards the ligth, as long as the plants are happy then i dont se any problem. (avoid any thing for chamilions).
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:16 PM
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There's a often recommended care sheet by mike martin that's very good. You can find it somewhere on this site I'm sure. My initial observations based on your post...phantasticus don't need to eat baby food, and your temperatures are on the high side. They really don't ever need to be 80 degrees or higher. Most people would agree that that is dangerous for them. Room temperatures should be fine. As far as the cage furnishings, live plants are good along with some thin branches. People have different opinions about substrate, I personally wouldn't use sphagnum moss because it tends hold onto too much water imho. If you haven't already, you should read the care sheet mentioned above. Good luck and enjoy your gecko.

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i have day light(the tropical light) and night glow lights to keep 80-85 F durring the day, room temp 70 F at night. he won't eat meal worm or baby food on its own.
*Facepalm*

That's way too hot during the day.

He's not eating meal worms or baby food on his own, because he isn't supposed to.

I feel like letting you know what I think of you, but at least you asked. You should have researched ahead of time, and just googling it and taking whatever someone says on the internet isn't research.
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Old 04-14-2011, 06:59 PM
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*Facepalm*

That's way too hot during the day.

He's not eating meal worms or baby food on his own, because he isn't supposed to.

I feel like letting you know what I think of you, but at least you asked. You should have researched ahead of time, and just googling it and taking whatever someone says on the internet isn't research.
I feel exactly how you do. I would love to know where he came up with the idea of feeding it baby food and even after it refused to eat it on its own should have been a clue to him.
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Old 04-14-2011, 07:01 PM
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Also stop with the liquid calcium, there is absolutely 100% no reason you should be giving your Male phantasticus liquid calcium.
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Honestly, is this a troll post? If not there are to few satanics out there for anybody to be so negligent in their care. This gecko has no chance of long term survival on this regiment.
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Well, hopefully you'll reconsider giving the google results another shot. As already mentioned, I have an in-depth caresheet for this species. If you google "Uroplatus phantasticus care", it's the first result. If you google "satanic leaftail care sheet", it's the 8th result. It's in the caresheet section of the GU forums, not to mention other gecko sites. Your methods of care lead me (and I assume others) to believe you put almost no effort into determining the proper husbandry requirements for the species.

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Honestly, is this a troll post?
We can only hope so.

You should consider putting a little more effort into obtaining information BEFORE obtaining animals you don't know the care requirements for, rather than asking a question that's been asked eleventy kabillion times before.
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Old 04-15-2011, 03:18 AM
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Hold on guys...

Satanic Leaftail geckos dont ALL come with the GU url attached to them.
It is not rocket science to keep them alive...
I ve had my first pair of WCs for well over 5 years and did not know much about the species...although i had henkels and phelsuma before.
And my female satanics first meal was a super worm...although she did not prefer them.

Calcium drops...bad Idea, but the babyfood thing is not a terrible idea, especially if the animal is mal nourished.
Maybe not that popular with satanics, but the henkels seem to like it.
We should commend this person for coming to the most knowledgeable/resourceful place on the internet (asside from google, which is probably how he found GU).
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way to welcome someone looking for honest advice!


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I feel like letting you know what I think of you...
Who the heck are you? Who cares what you think of this new member??

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Honestly, is this a troll post? If not there are to few satanics out there for anybody to be so negligent in their care. This gecko has no chance of long term survival on this regiment.
Yeah, a troll post...is that how you welcome someone seeking advice...atleast they were not afraid to ask questions...because of condescending posters like you...maybe they wont ask helpful questions in the future...

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Honestly, is this a troll post?

We can only hope so.
Mike?? Cmon man? try to be cool with the new person seeking advice...

Im not trying to be the moral police, but we all remember the first geckos/reptiles/amphibians that hooked us into the hobby. What if you saw/ran across a satanic leaftail gecko when you were green around the edges? Big deal that this person scooped one up...Why not give them helpful advice and guide them to success? Or are some people envious that this person has this gecko.
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Old 04-15-2011, 03:36 AM
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Uroplatus dont eat, babyfood nor does or should any reptile as it is bad for them..
Mine do...not necessarily the satincs, but my henkels do and all of my phelsuma do as well...
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