[tristan 92]

U. sameiti have been described recently, males sameiti always have a line from head to the tail, females sameiti and sikorae can't be determinated with classical pattern method, the only way is to know the area where she's comming from and genetical analysis.
It also seems that the difference with the color of the mouth isn't always verified because some sikorae have a pink mouth too.

Here is a male U. sameiti, picture was taken between montagne d'ambre and Joffreville this month.

[luevelvet]

U.sameiti has been considered a good species since Raxworthy et al treated it as such in 2006 in their paper titled "Predicting species distributions...". In 2008, the molecular results published in their "Continental speciation in the tropics..." paper support U.sameiti as a good species as well.

Originally Posted by tristan 92

...males sameiti always have a line from head to the tail...

I find this statement interesting, other than one that we've hatched, I've yet to see a striped male sameiti...all of our breeder males lack any striping. We should keep in mind the number of undescribed species seem to increase each year.

Here are two males we hatched out back in Dec/Jan...


Here's a photo of one of our strongest breeders last year. He looks very similar to the OP's male during the day. (please excuse the mislabeling)


One of latest hatchlings, with a stripe.



Cheers!

Luis

[tristan 92]

For me the question is, how can you know if they are real sameiti ?
The information I gived here was given to me by Angelin Razafimanantsoa, for me the best herpetofauna guide in Madagascar, who make every scientific trip ( you can find his name and several species named in his name in " A Field Guide To Reptiles And Amphibiens Of Madagascar" for example, like Furcifer angeli etc. ).
He said me, when we was in Montagne d'Ambre, that the color of the mouth wasn't a good way to difference sikorae/sameiti/sp because sikorae can have a pink mouth and there's another species who have to be describe, near 200-600 meters from the entrance of this national park, who looks like a kind of sikorae too.
He also said that the line on the back like on the picture was caracteristic from U. sameiti males, and that it's not possible to say from a female if it's sikorae or sameiti without genetical analysis.
BUT, maybe I didn't understand well what he said, maybe that the black line proof that it's a sameiti but they probably don't have the black line everytime.

It's really hard to know really what species it is when you talk about U. sikorae complex, that's also why we love them isn't it ?