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    Hello all,

    So I recently ordered a trio of U. Finiavana 2 females 1 male. the shipment is set to arrive at the end of this month/beginning of next. I did not make this purchase lightly, I have been wanting to work with Uroplatus for quite some time and the opportunity ALONG with the funds presented itself so I seized it. I have done extensive reading and research on caring for them. I am mainly going off of care for Ebenaui and Phantasticus since only a handful of people work with Finiavana, which is where this post comes in. Any one out here in the wonderful land that is the internet that has tips that could benefit me in my caring for them and hopefully breeding them in the future I would greatly appreciate it. To give you all an idea of where I am at with everything I will give you a break down:

    I have had their terrarium (a 29 gallon high) enclosure growing in for about 3 months now. The plant growth is good, and everything is appearing stable. I have 2 incandescent bulbs on it. One 5.0 uvb and one bulb specifically meant for plant growth which puts off a more yellowed/purple hue than the white/blue of the 5.0. I have covered the screen top to allow the enclosure to maintain more humidity, which is working, but it also seems to be holding in some heat as well making the enclosure stay around the high 70s. I have considered getting rid of one light to remedy that issue. The isopods in the terrarium are doing great they are multiplying like crazy and breaking down the fruit and veggie slices I provide. Humidity is staying at a constant 80-85% it does fluctuate a little but I am only really having to mist lightly in the mornings and by the end of the day there is still some condensation on the glass above the substrate. Hopefully I will be able to post a picture or video showing everything going on, but right now all I can offer is a text description.

    Going from the information I am able to provide at the current moment (I am at work on break right now) hopefully someone will be able to tell me if I am making any critical errors that need to be fixed asap. Thank you in advance to everyone who takes the time to read my long winded post, and a huge thanks to anyone who is able to provide me with some feedback.

    - Victor

    (p.s. if you are also on faunaclassifieds I did make this post yesterday. I just want to have the post in multiple locations to get the most feedback)

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    Hi, too bad you can't show photo's yet, in this case they would help a lot.

    From what you said abouth the condensation still being there in the evening it sounds to me like there might not be enough airflow, which is most lkely also what causes the heat to build up.

    Do you have top and bottom ventilation?

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    IMG_5613.jpg IMG_5615.jpgIMG_5612.jpgIMG_5611.jpgIMG_5610.jpgIMG_5609.JPGIMG_5604.JPGIMG_5602.JPG Here I have attached a couple pictures of the enclosure itself and just for the heck of it a photo of each of the geckos that the breeder has sent to me before I receive them. the one without its tail is the male the other two are the females. To answer your question though Tamara its top ventilation. I removed the light at the back today and only used the light on the front so that more screen was uncovered and that seemed to help with keep the temperature closer to what the house is at. I think two lights was just too much. I do know that having Ficus in there would have been more beneficial and I am keeping a look out for a smaller ficus at my local plant nursery, but for now these are the plants I have had growing in there. the large piece of wood at the front is totally hollow underneath with a big split at one end to allow the females to have a more secluded place to lay their eggs. Now that I was able to upload photos hopefully it will help. I want to do everything I can to ensure they are happy and healthy for a long time so I am open to suggestions for changes I can make.
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    Nice animals.

    For the future though i would look out for another terrarium, maybe an Exo Terra or ZooMed that has a complete screen top and bottom ventilation as well. With a hole drilled in the bottom for drainage.
    To be honoust i have not heard many succesfull story's of Uro's that where being kept in a converted aquarium.
    Most of the times the substrate turns into a swamp very fast, certainly if you have to mist as often as with Uroplatus.
    Stagnant water will become very dangerous very fast because of bacteria, so needless to say a good drainage is very important as well.
    In the meantime you can place a small computer fan on top if you think you don't have enough airflow, but a well ventilated , vertical terrarium would be much better so i would try to upgrade as soon as possible.

    Also, i would add a bunch of thin twines and branches and more foliage, the Uroplatus species of the ebenaui complex are known to prefer the more thinner stuff to climb on and hang around at.
    That's why most of us like to use Ficus, but there are plenty of other plants that will work just as well.

    They are not ours but here is a pic of some Chameleon enclosures that would also be great for ebenaui complex Uroplatus.
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    I hear what you're saying and I think I may actually be able to address the issues you've brought to my attention. I just saw that the petsmart by my house has a 36in x 18in x 24in enclosure on sale, for half price, that I think I might pick up. Its one of those National Geographic terrariums, I have yet to have experience with that brand, but it gives me an extra foot of height on the next comparable exo-terra at almost half the cost. It also supplies the front strip ventilation with front opening doors and screen top. Taking into account the need for more foliage I did decide to make a plant run to Lowes and was able to pick up quite a few plants that will add a lot more cover. I still wasn't able to find any ficus trees, but I got two more china doll plants, a money tree, umbrella tree, small palm, and a couple ferns and ground cover plants. If I get the larger enclosure it will provide more than enough room for all the plants. The issue I run into is lighting, but I have an idea for that as well. I have run across a couple tutorials of people using pvc gutter, covering the inside with reflective tape, then wrapping the rolls of led lights with the remotes around a pvc pipe and adhering the pipe to the inside of the gutter providing lots of light with little to no heat. I still have 3 weeks before the geckos arrive so I have some time to play around with things and make sure they are as stable as possible before I place them in the vivarium.
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    I have updated pictures with the new viv. Got an update that the geckos are set to go on 7-13! I had a quick question to ask. I'm trying to add in some smaller sticks and twigs and I have citrus trees all over my property. So long as any thorns that might be on the branches are removed are they safe to use in an enclosure? We also have mulberry trees and a few Chinese elms if the citrus is not allowed. I just asked about the citrus trees because they have a lot of small branches with lots of spidery twigs.
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