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    Fimbriatus help needed. My 6.5 month juvenile is walking with shaky legs. He eats mostly calcium/d3 dusted crickets (occasionally Grub Pie and dubias). I'm worried this is a sign is a sign of calcium deficiency. I'm trying to coax more Grub Pie and have moved him to a tank with UV in the day (pretty sure that doesn't work for uroplatus but I'll try anything).
    Is this likely calcium deficiency? Any chance it's hypo-calcium?
    Is it early enough to correct myself or is a vet check and bloods absolutely necessary (only reptile vets were not the greatest with exotics and I feel I lost my chameleons partially by them).

    I had just noticed the shaking this week but I don't always take him out. He was eating and pooping this week.
    The last time I had him out and took pictures without noticing anything with the walk was Sept 24th.

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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited!

    I think it was you who mentioned you're using Zoo Med supplements.
    • Both Repti Calcium with D3 and Reptivite multivitamins without D3?
    • How often?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

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    According to Uroplatus.org and other sources, UVB is strongly recommended for the health of all Uroplatus species. Shaky legs usually means not enough calcium, rather than too much, but symptoms of D3 overdose and calcium deficiency are deceptively similar. Can you see its calcium sacs (light-colored ovals under the skin) under the jaw? What do they look like?

    I would recommend getting a blood sample done if you can. You can find ARAV-certified vets in your area at ARAV.org.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited!

    I think it was you who mentioned you're using Zoo Med supplements.
    • Both Repti Calcium with D3 and Reptivite multivitamins without D3?
    • How often?
    HI, calcium/d3 90% of the time and reptivite maybe once a month.
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    My vet was aarv certified.. Said my not-eating post-clutch female would be fine (died), and my not eating and not-good-looking-mouth male would be fine (died). He actually said they were a bit overweight. No tests or anything.

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    Not much of any calcium sacs to be seen.

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    That's discouraging...I'm sorry to hear that you've had such a poor experience with your veterinarian, and I hope you've left reviews about them for other reptile keepers.

    If blood tests aren't an option, and calcium sacs aren't visible, then I'm inclined to say that your gecko is most likely suffering from insufficient calcium. Get him/her under a high-quality 2-5% UVB fluorescent like the Zoo Med Reptisun 2.0 or 5.0 (avoid compacts/coil bulbs), or better yet, get one from the Arcadia brand.

    Crickets and dubia roaches should be offered nightly, always dusted with a high quality calcium supplement. Offering small snails (undusted) may also be beneficial if you can get them. A multivitamin can mixed into the calcium supplement 50/50 1-2x per week. Fortunately fimbriatus don't seem to be as sensitive to vitamins as others, like sikorae for example. In fact, it may be that they have difficulty absorbing vitamins and need more than average.

    I recommend using either Rep-Cal superfine powder with D3 or Miner-ALL Indoor formula for the calcium. Good multivitamin powders from my experience have been Herptivite and Vit-ALL.

    Here's the care sheet from Uroplatus.org if you haven't read through it already: Uroplatus Information Center - Uroplatus fimbriatus
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReptiFiles View Post
    That's discouraging...I'm sorry to hear that you've had such a poor experience with your veterinarian, and I hope you've left reviews about them for other reptile keepers.

    If blood tests aren't an option, and calcium sacs aren't visible, then I'm inclined to say that your gecko is most likely suffering from insufficient calcium. Get him/her under a high-quality 2-5% UVB fluorescent like the Zoo Med Reptisun 2.0 or 5.0 (avoid compacts/coil bulbs), or better yet, get one from the Arcadia brand.

    Crickets and dubia roaches should be offered nightly, always dusted with a high quality calcium supplement. Offering small snails (undusted) may also be beneficial if you can get them. A multivitamin can mixed into the calcium supplement 50/50 1-2x per week. Fortunately fimbriatus don't seem to be as sensitive to vitamins as others, like sikorae for example. In fact, it may be that they have difficulty absorbing vitamins and need more than average.

    I recommend using either Rep-Cal superfine powder with D3 or Miner-ALL Indoor formula for the calcium. Good multivitamin powders from my experience have been Herptivite and Vit-ALL.

    Here's the care sheet from Uroplatus.org if you haven't read through it already: Uroplatus Information Center - Uroplatus fimbriatus

    Yes, and it was two different vets in two different clinics sadly.

    The UV he's been moved into is Arcadia.

    I'm worried that it's uncertain whether or not this is a deficiency or overdosing. I'm also inclined to think deficiency with the shaking and lack of sacs. .

    I'm just surprised it is a deficiency with the amount of dusting and vitamins I have been giving him..
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    Yes, and it was two different vets from two different clinics (though one clinic did try with the male more to be fair).

    The UV he's been moved into is Arcadia.
    Im also inclined to think it's a calcium deficiency with the shaking and lack of calcium sacs.
    Im just surprised that it's a deficiency with the amount of dusting and vitamins I have been giving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thecoldandfuzzies View Post
    Yes, and it was two different vets from two different clinics (though one clinic did try with the male more to be fair).

    The UV he's been moved into is Arcadia.
    Im also inclined to think it's a calcium deficiency with the shaking and lack of calcium sacs.
    Im just surprised that it's a deficiency with the amount of dusting and vitamins I have been giving.
    I agree that this is very strange - hopefully the Arcadia helps!

    It may be worth bringing your juvenile to the better vet specifically for a blood panel. Something as simple as blood calcium levels can be very revealing of what you're dealing with.

    Meanwhile, keep an eye on your gecko's reflexes, energy levels, appetite, and other health indicators.
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