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    Hello everyone,
    This is my first post so forgive me if I do something wrong. So my Leo has been off his food for some time now. He was loosing weight really quickly at the beginning of the year and when I took him to the vet they say he had parasites, pinworms to be specific, and that was causing him to lose weight as well as vomit his food back up every time he ate. Once I found out he had parasites and he stopped eating the vet recommended feeding baby food til he gets back on his food. And itís been two months and he still wonít eat any live feed. He started chasing it down again recently, but now heís holding the food in his mouth without swallowing. He just sits there with it but heís not biting or swallowing it. While he holds it heís moving around like heís uncomfortable, I assume from the worm moving in his mouth.

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    Heís a leopard gecko, no morph
    Name-Pierre
    20 gallon long tank
    UTH on the hot, max temp reaches up to 90
    Cool side in the upper 70s
    If any more info is needed I can give it

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    Did the vet give you any medication to deal with the worms? If not, he may still have pinworms. Have you tried holding him and putting the worm in his mouth? Are you willing to try crickets to see if he has a different response to them?

    Aliza

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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    Did the vet give you any medication to deal with the worms? If not, he may still have pinworms. Have you tried holding him and putting the worm in his mouth? Are you willing to try crickets to see if he has a different response to them?

    Aliza
    Yes the vet gave me a powder to mix in his food, as well as a liquid, I believe its called Albon. He shows no interest in crickets, every time I offer them. I have tried to give them worms to him by hand as well as putting them in front of them, and he will bite it, but afterwords he won't chew or swallow. It just hangs out of his mouth til he drops it. I'm wondering if he's too weak to chew it, or if having to feed him a liquid diet for a while made him forget how to eat solids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbdalton93 View Post
    Yes the vet gave me a powder to mix in his food, as well as a liquid, I believe its called Albon. He shows no interest in crickets, every time I offer them. I have tried to give them worms to him by hand as well as putting them in front of them, and he will bite it, but afterwords he won't chew or swallow. It just hangs out of his mouth til he drops it. I'm wondering if he's too weak to chew it, or if having to feed him a liquid diet for a while made him forget how to eat solids.
    Please share a current photo of Pierre.

    Which liquid diet has he been fed? Carnivore Care is much better than baby food.

    Please list all supplements you've been using up to the time Pierre stopped eating: brand, name, & frequency.

    Did the vet also give you Oxbow's Carnivore Care all-in-one powdered food to mix with water? If so Carnivore Care requires freezing. If you only refrigerate Carnivore Care it expires after 7 days, because it contains NO preservatives.

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-29-2019 at 07:01 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Please share a current photo of Pierre.

    Please list supplements you've been using up to the time Pierre stopped eating: brand, name, & frequency.

    Did the vet also give you Oxbow's Carnivore Care all-in-one powdered food to mix with water? If so Carnivore Care requires freezing. If you only refrigerate Carnivore Care it expires after 7 days, because it contains NO preservatives.

    Here is a photo of him doing the action in question, heís eating a waxworm in this, Iím aware theyíre not very good for them because of the fat content, but given his weight, I need fat content. I use calcium with d3 and multivitamins from exoterra, those were given every time he ate. Also the vet gave me wet cat/dog food to feed him he also recommended baby food, which I was using because he wouldnít take the dog food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbdalton93 View Post
    Here is a photo of him doing the action in question, he’s eating a waxworm in this, I’m aware they’re not very good for them because of the fat content, but given his weight, I need fat content. I use calcium with d3 and multivitamins from exoterra, those were given every time he ate. Also the vet gave me wet cat/dog food to feed him he also recommended baby food, which I was using because he wouldn’t take the dog food.
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    From what I can see, your leo seems to be in bad shape. Please have him tested for crypto. Crypto is highly contagious. Vets can swab the vent to test for crypto. A fecal sample is not necessary.

    You can order Carnivore Care from Amazon. That's hugely better than dog food. Pet stores carry ReptiBoost. In the past vets often prescribed Hills' Prescription Diet: a/d canine feline for reptiles.

    Try assist feeding your leo either Carnivore Care from Amazon (or your vet) or ReptiBoost like this.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Was this vet an exotic vet? If not, I’d search for one as soon as possible, schedule an appointment and explain what is happening with his mouth(radiograph would be a good idea). Did the vet or yourself attempt to force the mouth open? It isn’t difficult to dislocate or fracture the jaw especially in patients with nutritional metabolic bone disease. In MBD itself the bones can become severely weak and make jaw movement difficult.

    Albon is potentially nephrotoxic and so hydration is very important. Keep the humidity in the entire enclosure between 40-60%(use a reliable hygrometer). Does he have a humidity hide on the warm end? I would dip one insect a day in water and offer it (if he accepts it) for about 2 weeks(only if the vet did not administer fluids).Definitely switch to Carnivore Care which provides balanced nutrition. Try to get him to lick it off. Do not attempt to open the mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    From what I can see, your leo seems to be in bad shape. Please have him tested for crypto. Crypto is highly contagious. Vets can swab the vent to test for crypto. A fecal sample is not necessary.

    You can order Carnivore Care from Amazon. That's hugely better than dog food. Pet stores carry ReptiBoost. In the past vets often prescribed Hills' Prescription Diet: a/d canine feline for reptiles.

    Try assist feeding your leo either Carnivore Care from Amazon (or your vet) or ReptiBoost like this.
    Crypto was my biggest concern before when I took him to the vet, but when I brought him to get him tested all they said he had was the pinworms. Iím going to order the carnivore care and get him another vet appointment as soon as I can. He just leaves me so confused cause heís still rather alert and active, but also lazy and doesnít eat. Iím just hoping itís not crypto because I know that theyíre not much recovery from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbdalton93 View Post
    Crypto was my biggest concern before when I took him to the vet, but when I brought him to get him tested all they said he had was the pinworms. I’m going to order the carnivore care and get him another vet appointment as soon as I can. He just leaves me so confused cause he’s still rather alert and active, but also lazy and doesn’t eat. I’m just hoping it’s not crypto because I know that they’re not much recovery from that.
    Good ordering the Carnivore Care! Even ailing lizards tend to be active until they no longer can. If they slow down in the wild, they'll quickly become someone's next meal.

    Be sure your vet is an exotics vet and recognized by the Association of Reptile and Amphibian vets. Request a crypto swab. It's a separate test. Sometimes it's necessary to test again 2 or so months after the first test.

    Did you see Sg612's post 7?

    Scroll down the Table of Contents link in my signature for the one on crypto.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Good ordering the Carnivore Care! Even ailing lizards tend to be active until they no longer can. If they slow down in the wild, they'll quickly become someone's next meal.

    Be sure your vet is an exotics vet and recognized by the Association of Reptile and Amphibian vets. Request a crypto swab. It's a separate test. Sometimes it's necessary to test again 2 or so months after the first test.

    Did you see Sg612's post 7?

    Scroll down the Table of Contents link in my signature for the one on crypto.
    Iím going to pick up the reptaboost because that seems to be more readily available where Iím at.
    I am beginning to wonder if he is in the early stages of MBD, Iím going to get him an X-ray on his jaw, because Iím worried I may have injured his jaw, as I was told itís okay to try and get them to open their mouths. I would hope thatís not the case.
    Also, the Vet is a licensed exotic vet, he is a great vet and my parents have dealt with him for a few years prior to me seeing him. I will call tomorrow and go as soon as I get the chance.
    And I will read the link in your signature as soon as Iím done typing this.
    Thank you for all your replies everyone, as nerve wracking as is you have all been a lot of help.

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