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    Hi all! I have a happy go lucky, healthy, adult male Leo. Got a question about a gutloading option.
    My boys staple is large mealworms. He's kinda picky to eat other things, but occasionally I can sneak in a few dubia without him noticing too much. He absolutely hates crickets. The usual bowl of mealies has a mix of wheat bran, roach gutload meal, and supplements of calcium and repti-multi-vitamin. Usually I'll also throw in a baby carrot or two and a few potato chunks. Occasionally I'll change up the veggies to get more variety.
    Anyway, a friend of mine got some Bee Pollen granules. She thought it would help with her energy...more or less...nope. So she gave it to me. Of course, I found it to be of no personal use either. Wondering if I could add it to gutloading mixture? For more variety and possibly more complete nutrition? The granules are organic. Label states "all natural occurring: vitamins, minerals, amino acids, carotenoids, bioflavonoids, phytosterols, fatty acids, and enzymes."
    It is a 10 oz bottle...so there is LOTS. Wondering if I could put some good use to it. Has anyone tried Bee Pollen in their gutloading? Any feedback is greatly appreciated!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whtroze View Post
    Hi all! I have a happy go lucky, healthy, adult male Leo. Got a question about a gutloading option.
    My boys staple is large mealworms. He's kinda picky to eat other things, but occasionally I can sneak in a few dubia without him noticing too much. He absolutely hates crickets. The usual bowl of mealies has a mix of wheat bran, roach gutload meal, and supplements of calcium and repti-multi-vitamin. Usually I'll also throw in a baby carrot or two and a few potato chunks. Occasionally I'll change up the veggies to get more variety.
    Anyway, a friend of mine got some Bee Pollen granules. She thought it would help with her energy...more or less...nope. So she gave it to me. Of course, I found it to be of no personal use either. Wondering if I could add it to gutloading mixture? For more variety and possibly more complete nutrition? The granules are organic. Label states "all natural occurring: vitamins, minerals, amino acids, carotenoids, bioflavonoids, phytosterols, fatty acids, and enzymes."
    It is a 10 oz bottle...so there is LOTS. Wondering if I could put some good use to it. Has anyone tried Bee Pollen in their gutloading? Any feedback is greatly appreciated!!
    Many thanks for all these details! Bee pollen would be an excellent addition to the insect's and probably the mealworm's gutloading!

    Wheat bran contains way too much phosphorus. Phosphorus impairs the absorption of calcium.


    "A commercial gutloading food like Bug Burger or Superload (both by Repashy), Cricket Crack, Dinofuel, etc. is going to make your life easier AND provide a nutritious diet to your crickets at the same time. Avoid Fluker's gutloads, as they are super feeble in their formulas."

    "If you opt for making your own gutload at home, here is a list of great ingredients to use:
    Best: mustard greens, turnip greens, dandelion flowers & leaves, collard greens, escarole lettuce, papaya, watercress, and alfalfa.
    Good: sweet potato, carrots, oranges, mango, butternut squash, kale, apples, beet greens, blackberries, bok choy, and green beans.
    Dry food: bee pollen, organic non-salted sunflower seeds, spirulina, dried seaweed, flax seed, and organic non-salted almonds.
    Avoid as much as possible: potatoes, cabbage, iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, corn, grains, beans, oats, bread, cereal, meat, eggs, dog food, cat food, fish food, canned or dead insects, vertebrates."
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Here's the one thing you need to be careful of: make sure the bee pollen isn't too oily. Many years ago, I tried to gutload my mealworms by going to the local food coop and getting a bunch of different organic bulk grains which I ground up in the blender. It included bee pollen. I don't know if it was just the bee pollen or some of the other stuff I was using, but the mealworms died because their mouths got all stuffed up with the gutload which was oilier than most other gutload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    Here's the one thing you need to be careful of: make sure the bee pollen isn't too oily. Many years ago, I tried to gutload my mealworms by going to the local food coop and getting a bunch of different organic bulk grains which I ground up in the blender. It included bee pollen. I don't know if it was just the bee pollen or some of the other stuff I was using, but the mealworms died because their mouths got all stuffed up with the gutload which was oilier than most other gutload.

    Aliza
    I have bee pollen, Aliza. The pollen "seems" quite dry.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    It may be just fine. I never figured out what was causing the problem. It may have been the ground up nuts.

    Aliza

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    I like bee pollen as a supplement for lots of creatures - I have it mixed in with my feeders' gutload too and used to use it in my homemade goldfish foods and used to use it as an additional supplement for malnourished birds. Really brightens up color for everyone. Also tastes great in teas

    *Making sure you get good organic bee pollen without any "color-added" stuff is important as well. Since it is a 'vitamin' the FDA does not regulate closely and some brands use fillers that are not great. Also being organic should eliminate the possibility of and insecticides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpottedDragon View Post
    I like bee pollen as a supplement for lots of creatures - I have it mixed in with my feeders' gutload too and used to use it in my homemade goldfish foods and used to use it as an additional supplement for malnourished birds. Really brightens up color for everyone. Also tastes great in teas

    *Making sure you get good organic bee pollen without any "color-added" stuff is important as well. Since it is a 'vitamin' the FDA does not regulate closely and some brands use fillers that are not great. Also being organic should eliminate the possibility of and insecticides.
    Where do YOU buy bee pollen, SpottedDragon? What color is yours?

    I bought mine from the Wholesale Reptile Supply Company in Sacramento, California.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Since mine is human grade it is " Stakich BEE POLLEN POWDER 1 lb (16 oz) - 100% Pure, Natural, Top Quality -
    by Stakich" from amazon. This is a yellow/brown powder. My mom got it for me to help "boost energy and decrease inflammation" - it tastes good, but I didn't get any of the special benefits so I share it with my beasts.

    When I was keeping goldfish I used the NOW brand human vitamin capsules of bee pollen and mixed it with spirulina, smashed green peas, various repashy powders, and various frozen/thawed worms, shrimp, and krills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpottedDragon View Post
    Since mine is human grade it is " Stakich BEE POLLEN POWDER 1 lb (16 oz) - 100% Pure, Natural, Top Quality -
    by Stakich" from amazon. This is a yellow/brown powder. My mom got it for me to help "boost energy and decrease inflammation" - it tastes good, but I didn't get any of the special benefits so I share it with my beasts.

    When I was keeping goldfish I used the NOW brand human vitamin capsules of bee pollen and mixed it with spirulina, smashed green peas, various repashy powders, and various frozen/thawed worms, shrimp, and krills.
    , thanks so much!
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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