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    Hey everyone,
    I have a male Leo who's about 8-9 months old. He's the pickiest eater I've ever dealt with. This issue started when he was around 6 months old. He had regurgitated a butter worm back then and went off food for 3 weeks with diarrhea. I had given him oxbox critical care and he bounced back. Prior to the butter worm incident, he was eating gut loaded crickets and absolutely loved hunting them.

    After giving critical care, I managed to get him to eat meal worms by offering one wax worm to jumpstart his appetite. I never offered too many of the wax worms and he was eating dusted mealworms every other day because he no longer took interest in crickets. Then gradually he started going off food for a week at a time. Now he refuses both mealworms and crickets. He doesn't even bother to look at them. I've offered a small superworm which he ate after being off food for 2.5 weeks, but I would like to get him back on good staple insects.

    He just doesn't want to hunt anymore, and I'm not sure how to get him back on track. He has only lost about 5 grams. He weighs 55 grams now and was at 60 grams when eating normally. Otherwise he looks very healthy, and has Normal looking poops. But he does shed very often. Sometimes once a week. I regularly check him over for stuck shed and so far all his sheds have been good.

    Here's his setup
    •20 gallon terranium with UTH on hot side. Thermostat controlled and set to 90.
    •Paper towel substrate
    •1 hot hide, 1 moist hide 1 cool hide.
    •Air temp 88 on warm side, 83 in middle, 75 on cool end.
    •He has a dish of pure calcium power without D-3.
    •When he does eat, I dust the feeders with repashy calcium plus.

    Does anyone have any advice or any I'm being overly concerned?

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    Here's his setup
    •20 gallon terranium with UTH on hot side. Thermostat controlled and set to 90.
    •Paper towel substrate
    •1 hot hide, 1 moist hide 1 cool hide.
    Air temp 88 on warm side, 83 in middle, 75 on cool end.
    •He has a dish of pure calcium power without D-3.
    •When he does eat, I dust the feeders with repashy calcium plus.

    Does anyone have any advice or any I'm being overly concerned?
    Welcome aboard!

    Let's try this for starters. From what you say, your temps may be low. Have you an analog (circle) thermometer? Sometimes analog thermometers only read "ballpark" numbers. Please get a yellow Zoo Med digital thermometer with a probe. We'd like to know ground temperatures.

    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C):
    • Warm end ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) inside a leo's warm dry hide and his moist hide too!
    • Cool end ground temperature: 70ish-75 F (21.1-23.9 C) Usually the cool end ground temperature matches the room temperature where the enclosure sits.
    • no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the warm end
    • no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. If you wish, during the night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).
    Have you a 20 long: 30 x 12 x 12 inches tall? What are the dimensions of your heat mat? Where is your moist hide located?

    Please click this link. It shares a good Repashy's Calcium Plus schedule from GU's acpart who has bred leopard geckos and used that supplement for years. She has tweaked her schedule so her leopard geckos don't get too much multivitamin.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Thanks for the reply. Sorry I should've clarified a few things. The tank is an exo Terra low 45×45×30. The UTH is 20x 20 in size. I have a heat mat controller with a probe on the UTH set to 90. I use a temperature gun to measure the rest of the tank rather than one of those thermometers that stick. The most hide is on the warm side but not directly over the heat mat.

    Sometimes my room gets cold and I will use a small ceramic heat emitter if temperatures drops low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by equinelove93 View Post
    Thanks for the reply. Sorry I should've clarified a few things. The tank is an exo Terra low 45×45×30. The UTH is 20x 20 in size. I have a heat mat controller with a probe on the UTH set to 90. I use a temperature gun to measure the rest of the tank rather than one of those thermometers that stick. The most hide is on the warm side but not directly over the heat mat.

    Sometimes my room gets cold and I will use a small ceramic heat emitter if temperatures drops low.
    Thanks for clarifying. It might be difficult to get a good thermal gradient in an Exo Terra low 45×45×30 cm.

    How often do you usually dust with Repashy's Calcium Plus?


    "I fed juveniles and hatchlings 3 times a week. (They would be getting mealworms so there would always be some in their bowls.) For juveniles I'd dust with Repashy's Calcium Plus at every other feeding. For hatchlings 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams, I would also dust every other feeding in addition to keeping plain calcium in the cage 24/7."

    Aliza

    Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins
    (withOUT UVB)

    1. Feeding & Supplementing HATCHLING leopard geckos - 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams ~ Feed 3x per week.
    • Feed Tuesdays, Thursdays, & Saturdays
    • Dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins at every other feeding
    • ALSO: Keep a bottle cap of plain calcium in the cage 24/7.
    • [See dusting chart below]

    2. Feeding & Supplementing JUVENILE leopard geckos ~ Feed 3x per week.
    • Feed Tuesdays, Thursdays, & Saturdays
    • Dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins at every other feeding
    • [See dusting chart below]

    3. Feeding & Supplementing ADULT leopard geckos ~ Feed 2x per week.
    • Mondays ~ feed (no dusting)
    • Thursdays ~ feed & dust prey with Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins


    \/ \/ \/


    R = Repashy's Calcium Plus, Cc = pure precipitated calcium carbonate (withOUT vitamin D3)

    Week 1 Repashy dusting (for JUVENILES & HATCHLINGS):
    M-------T-------W------Th-------F-------Sat-------Sun
    ............R..................................... ......R...................


    Week 2 Repashy dusting (for JUVENILES & HATCHLINGS):
    M-------T-------W------Th-------F-------Sat-------Sun
    ..................................R............... ...........................


    -----> For hatchlings 0-2 months old & any slow-growing leopard geckos under ~6 grams: Aliza also places a bottle cap of pure precipitated calcium carbonate (withOUT vitamin D3) in the cage 24/7.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 08-27-2019 at 10:27 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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