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    Hi all,

    New leopard gecko owner here. I bought a bold tremper juvinile female at an expo a week and a half ago. Very happy with her.

    I'm having a health related problem with my gecko though unfortunately.

    The first three poops were normal. But since then there have been four poops with undigested food animals in it. I read in my research before hand, that leopard geckos could eat feeder animals as big as their head is wide. But that if they would take bigger animals, that would be fine.

    I'm now doubting if that last part is true. I've fed mealworms that now I think were too large for my gecko. I believe that to be the reason for the apparent digestion problems. Once I saw the first irregular poop with the whole mealworm in it, I immediately decided to stop feeding mealworms. After that I have been feeding size 2-3 crickets, calciworms smaller than a cm and dubia roaches also smaller than a cm. And a smaller amount of them as well.

    In the last poop there was an undigested calciworm, but I wonder if she's is still having problems stemming from the mealworms fed earlier.

    The poops have been getting better every time, as in less undigested matter, and more normal poop along with the undigested matter.

    Coming here of course I have just read the sticky about meal worms, I wonder why none of the sources I checked warned about mealworms.

    Other causes I have considered is temperatures, but they have been consistantly on point. (32c ground, 33-34c ambient, 24-26c cool end ambient). I considered she might have had trouble finding the water bowl, I have not seen here drink from the bowl until now, but I suspect she is drinking from it. Nonetheless I have started offering water in a small plastic spoon by hand, which she does drink, but she does not seem parched. Just drinks a couple of gulps and then seems to have had enough and wonders of.

    Her behaviour seems very healthy, responsive quick, nothing weird at all. She gained a little weight, looking more healthy in that respect.

    So I'm pretty sure it must be the feed. I was hoping it would have cleared up totaly by now. Happy to see it seems to be improving a little with every poop though.

    What should I do? I feel like I should cut out the roaches for now as they have a hard shell to. (Good idea?) I'm wondering about the calciworms, the undigested one could be because she's still dealing with overall digestion problems. Or are they hard to digest as well?

    My own idea would be to stick with small crickets for now and see if the poop improves further over the coming days.

    Any advice? Thanks very much!

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    When I was breeding I fed my very young juveniles with full sized mealworms and never had a problem. It may be that the diet changes are causing the poop issues. Worst case, she is having a more global health issue that's becoming apparent. I recommend you choose 1 or 2 feeders and provide them consistently and then check to see that poops are returning to normal. If there's still a problem, consider a reptile vet visit.

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    How fast is she eating? with harder skinned/carapace bugs can pass through the digestive system if your gecko isn't chewing at all. It their teeth don't puncture the bugs' bodies then the stomach juices can't get in and do their job. I know phoenix worms can be pricked with a needle to help prevent that, so I assume this would be the case with other bugs as well. Mine did this the first time I fed mine wax worms - he gobbled them soooo fast that one slipped through undigested.

    If that does not seem to be the case and you can hear the crunch of bugs, then maybe get a fecal sample to a vet to check for parasites. Some parasites can through off the intestines and make things pass too fast / cause diarrhea.
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    thanks both!

    Yes, I will be sticking to phoenix worms and small crickets for the coming time.

    Thanks for the tip about the needle, I had not heard of that before, I will try that.

    It's hard for me to tell if she is eating too fast, since she is the first gecko I have owned. I never heard any crunching, but I have not specificaly listened for it, so I'll keep an eye on that.

    She did seem more surprised by the mealworm the first times I fed it, perhaps she never had them before.
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    Correct-sized roaches are very healthy for your gecko. Calci-worms are soft but fatty, and should be fed as a treat only. Crickets are fine. I'm glad to hear her health is improving!
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    Here's the latest insect & worm nutrition chart I have.


    The highest fat feeders = waxworms & butterworms. Calci-worms are also called Black Soldier Fly Larvae/Phoenix/repti worms & nutrigrubs. Some geckos don't like them. Sometimes it helps to pierce each worm with a pin prior to feeding them off to your gecko.

    For link 5 click: Black Soldier Fly Larvae (Phoenix/calci/repti worms & nutrigrubs) Care
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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

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    Thanks for the info on nutrition!

    There were 5-6 irregular poops that got gradualy better and the last two poops have been 100% normal! Huray, on the right track.
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