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    Quote Originally Posted by maddy5150 View Post
    Ok perfect thank you! I have a calcium dish for hi
    It had D3 in it is that ok too I’ve heard mixed opinions on that. I also have a CHE should I switch to the mat?
    What brand of D3 calcium have you been using?

    What is the ground temp underneath Ozzy's warm DRY hide?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Judging by this photo Ozzy does have some "meat" on his bones. Have you some idea how old Ozzy is?





    Oops, sorry. Repashy's Grub Pie is definitely what I meant! Please get some ASAP.


    PS:
    1. Please share an image of Ozzy's 10 gallon setup.
    2. Did you decide to go with a heat mat + a thermostat?
    3. What are the ground temps underneath Ozzy's warm DRY hide?
    4. Does Ozzy have a water dish?
    5. Something else you can do to help Ozzy feel more secure is cover both sides & the back with brown paper from large shopping bags.
    All these details ARE important. For instance IF you're not meeting Ozzy's temperature requirements that could be the reason Ozzy is not eating.

    What small bugs or worms have you offered him?

    For link 81 (& 87) click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet (abbreviated show handout) -- January 2021 (updated)
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 09-03-2021 at 02:55 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    All these details ARE important. For instance IF you're not meeting Ozzy's temperature requirements that could be the reason Ozzy is not eating.

    What small bugs or worms have you offered him?

    For link 81 (& 87) click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet (abbreviated show handout) -- January 2021 (updated)
    Ozzy has a CHE that is at 92, the calcium I use is repti calcium, he has a moist hide and a water dish as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddy5150 View Post
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    Ozzy has a CHE that is at 92, the calcium I use is repti calcium, he has a moist hide and a water dish as well
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    Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3?

    Is your digital thermometer's probe sitting on top of the large warm dry hide? Instead Ozzy needs 88-92*F on the ground underneath this hide. That's where many leos hang out to digest their prey. Instead of such a big hide with an even bigger entry hole for a small leo I recommend a different hide with a small opening like this hide OR a small black plastic hide.

    It may help to place recently fed mealworms in a sturdy tealight holder like this. Sometimes Walmart carries these. If he can't reach the worms, a small rock stepping stone will help.

    Can you get brown paper bags from a grocery store? Then cut them to size to cover both sides (unless up against a wall) and the back with this brown paper. That will help Ozzy feel more secure.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 09-03-2021 at 04:48 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    [QUOTE=Elizabeth Freer;501417]Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3?

    Is your digital thermometer's probe sitting on top of the large warm dry hide? Instead Ozzy needs 88-92*F on the ground underneath this hide. That's where many leos hang out to digest their prey. Instead of such a big hide with an even bigger entry hole for a small leo I recommend a different hide with a small opening like this hide OR a small black plastic hide.

    It may help to place recently fed mealworms in a sturdy tealight holder like this. Sometimes Walmart carries these. If he can't reach the worms, a small rock stepping stone will help.

    Can you get brown paper bags from a grocery store? Then cut them to size to cover both sides (unless up against a wall) and the back with this brown paper. That will help Ozzy feel more secure.[/QUOTE




    Yes the zoo med with D3 is that ok? I have a black small hide on the cool side I can switch those around. He has mealworm in his little dish that he can reach. I’ll definitely do the bags on the side of the tank. I promise I’m a good reptile owner haha I’ve just never had a Leo and there is so much conflicting information
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddy5150 View Post
    Yes the zoo med with D3 is that ok? I have a black small hide on the cool side I can switch those around. He has mealworm in his little dish that he can reach. I’ll definitely do the bags on the side of the tank. I promise I’m a good reptile owner haha I’ve just never had a Leo and there is so much conflicting information
    No worries, Maddy. I know how much conflicting info is OUT THERE!

    Be sure to press the Reply with Quote button at the foot of my message when you reply.

    Once Ozzy begins to eat, we can sort out how to manage supplements (Schedule 124). I much prefer light supplement dusting instead of leaving plain (no D3) inside the enclosure.

    At that point Ozzy needs 3 separate supplements as mentioned in Link 81.

    1. Let's switch the small black hide with the very large hide.
    2. Place the digital thermometer's probe underneath that black hide on top of the ground/floor.
    3. After several hours, what does that thermometer read? You're looking for 88-92*F ground/floor temperature.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 09-03-2021 at 02:20 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    No worries, Maddy. I know how much conflicting info is OUT THERE!

    Be sure to press the Reply with Quote button at the foot of my message when you reply.

    Once Ozzy begins to eat, we can sort out how to manage supplements (Schedule 124). I much prefer light supplement dusting instead of leaving plain (no D3) inside the enclosure.

    At that point Ozzy needs 3 separate supplements as mentioned in Link 81.

    1. Let's switch the small black hide with the very large hide.
    2. Place the digital thermometer's probe underneath that black hide on top of the ground/floor.
    3. After several hours, what does that thermometer read? You're looking for 88-92*F ground/floor temperature.
    I switched the hide, under his black hide itís about 90. What are the 3 supplements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddy5150 View Post
    I switched the hide, under his black hide it’s about 90. What are the 3 supplements?
    Please keep the probe underneath the smaller black plastic hide.

    Be sure to check the expiration dates. Plain (no D3) calcium NEVER expires. The 3 supplements are:
    1. Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    2. Zoo Med's Repti Calcium withOUT D3 (plain)
    3. Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins withOUT D3
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    Weekly Schedule 124 for Leopard Geckos 0-12 months old
    (withOUT UVB)
    Metabolic bone disease (MBD) symptoms include leaning to one side when walking, walking on one or both "elbows", bowed limbs, belly dragging, and an underbite. Difficulty chewing should be closely monitored.
    The Reptile Supply Company (916-226-4089) based in Lodi, California stocks Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins withOUT D3.
    Lightly dust the prey 3x per week even when your leopard gecko eats daily. When your leo graduates to eating ~3x per week, still lightly dust the prey ONLY 3x per week.

    During this time (0-12 months old) your leopard gecko will be transitioning from daily feeding to feeding ~3x per week. This all depends upon how fast your leo grows!


    • Monday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    • Tuesday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Wednesday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with pure precipitated calcium carbonate withOUT D3 (Zoo Med's Repti Calcium or NOW's human-grade pure calcium carbonate)
    • Thursday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Friday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins withOUT D3
    • Saturday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Sunday > > no food or free choice > > no dusting
    Here's a healthy dry diet/bedding for mealworms/superworms and for bugs too! After you get mealworms or superworms, replace the bedding they come in with already ground Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload dry insect & worm diet (1-775-359-1085). Let's keep those worms in 6 quart plastic Sterilite tubs with bedding & ventilation at room temperature, NOT in the refrigerator.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 09-03-2021 at 07:06 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Please keep the probe underneath the smaller black plastic hide.

    Be sure to check the expiration dates. Plain (no D3) calcium NEVER expires. The 3 supplements are:
    1. Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    2. Zoo Med's Repti Calcium withOUT D3 (plain)
    3. Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins withOUT D3
      5777.jpg
      (click to enlarge)




    Here's a healthy dry diet/bedding for mealworms/superworms and for bugs too! After you get mealworms or superworms, replace the bedding they come in with already ground Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload dry insect & worm diet (1-775-359-1085). Let's keep those worms in 6 quart plastic Sterilite tubs with bedding & ventilation at room temperature, NOT in the refrigerator.

    Unrelated, but does that smell?

    I found myself allergic to whatever the meal worms bedding is from PetCo and PetSmart

    Also....

    Is it good for Dubias ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Please keep the probe underneath the smaller black plastic hide.

    Be sure to check the expiration dates. Plain (no D3) calcium NEVER expires. The 3 supplements are:
    1. Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    2. Zoo Med's Repti Calcium withOUT D3 (plain)
    3. Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins withOUT D3
      5777.jpg
      (click to enlarge)




    Here's a healthy dry diet/bedding for mealworms/superworms and for bugs too! After you get mealworms or superworms, replace the bedding they come in with already ground Professional Reptiles' Pro Gutload dry insect & worm diet (1-775-359-1085). Let's keep those worms in 6 quart plastic Sterilite tubs with bedding & ventilation at room temperature, NOT in the refrigerator.
    Ozzy finally ate something!!! He ate the grub burger!! He loved it! What do I do about D3? And multi vitamins? Iím so happy he actually ate it!
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