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    Default Hello. Im new here and want to share my 2 new babies


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    So first I will introduce myself. Im Artchie. Im 30 years old and happily engaged. After constantly hearing from my friend, a Leo keeper for about 13 years talk about how great Leopard Geckos are.
    After reading up about Leo care wherever I can find it, making sure there is an exotic vet within 15 miles of my home, I have finally decided that I am ready for geckos of my own.
    After my 30th birthday, my fiance and I went to the local pet shops to look at Leopard Geckos. Finally I found one that I thought would be a great fit. I wanted to get 2, but there was only the one juvenile of a bunch of hatchlings.

    Here is Pascal
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    If I'm not mistaken, Pascal is a Tremper Albino. I am suspicious that Pascal is a male. He has the two bulges but still yet to show the preanal pores.
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    Pascal likes to go after the laser pointer, more so than my cat does(cat does NOT interact with my geckos...ever). He seems to get very curious at me when I tuck my head down from eyesight and then peak back up again. He likes being stroked on his back, and loves to crawl up my arm and hang out at the nape of my neck where I'm sure its nice and warm.
    -The oddities are...Pascal refuses to use the moist hide. I have spent a bit on commercial and home made. I got a special spray that I give him once a week(2-3 squirts), 2 times a week if I see he is about to shed.
    -Pascal will not touch crickets. Now I'm not too bummed out by this as mealworms are easier to deal with. But I find myself paranoid too. I have no idea how the pet shops keep their crickets. I dont want to feed them to my geckos out of fear that these crickets have possibly eaten each other which could risk gut-loading with parasites..but again its paranoia. I dont want anything bad to happen.
    -Pascal has already had his first visit to the vet due to poor shedding conditions. Had some skin still around his eye, which eventually got in the eye and many digits with skin still on them. I manage to carefully get the skin out of the eye and off all digits except 2 sadly. The vet had to remove 2 toe tips to avoid discomfort for him and infections.

    Now for the second month. Remember how I wanted to have 2. I ordered my second viv. + accessories(still waiting for it to arrive) I went back to the reputable pet shop to look around. This time they had about 3 juveniles. One stood out from the rest though. So I got her. She was just about the exact same size and just about 1 month younger than Pascal, so it was perfect.

    Here is Ginessa
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    Once again reading a lot about different morphs, I suspect Ginessa is a Mach Snow. I am almost positive Ginessa is a female due to the absence of the bulges. I have only had her since Thursday Jan 28. My new viv. for her was suppose to arrive on that same day but got the dreaded email saying the package was delayed due to weather conditions -.- So here I am with a new Leo and 1 med/small travel viv and 1 10 gallon viv.
    I had Ginessa sleep the night in the travel viv and contacted my friend with the 13 y/o Leo and asked him about housing both juveniles in the 10-gallon until my second viv arrived.
    He said as long as they are not fully sexually mature yet and they get along and its only for a couple of days it should be fine under careful observation of aggression. Now thankfully my luck was good. I have this wonderful heater blanket over my bed and with my fiance and I on either side to prevent escape, the bed was used as a warm neutral ground for Pascal and Ginessa to meet. Witnessing such a successful meeting between the two was fascinating and very cute. For now they both reside in the same tank, but when the new viv comes, they will both have their own space. Pascal seems to have even allowed Ginessa to share his favorite hide.
    Note: Ginessa is definitely the more dominant. She is always standing taller, more aggressive and eats like a moose, even on her first day with me. Pascal is in shed, so his eating only a couple these last 2 evenings. I am keeping a close watch on their interaction to ensure that while i wait for the new viv, they will both be safe. I am so lucky neither have taken a bite..just licking and lots of nuzzling under each others bellies.
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    Sorry about the long story. First (introduction) post is always the longest

    P.S. Please read my quick reply below. I didnt realize we could edit original post until I had submitted the next
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    To prevent any accusations of maltreatment from the shedding problems, i purchased him that way. The reptile keeper said he had just finished shedding and I did everything including warm soaks for him to help remove as much as possible. The keeper said If i wanted i could bring him back but i wouldn't. he was mine and i was not about to give up on him just because he was going to lose a couple of toes.

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    Welcome to GU and congrats on your new geckos. Don't worry too much about Pascal's oddities. Some geckos never use the humid hide and some don't eat crickets. He may like super worms if you want to try some for him. In general, it's not recommended to house a new gecko with a previous gecko without at least a month of quarantine. I realize that the situation was unusual and that at least they originally came (I assume) from the same place. I hope your viv comes soon and that you continue to enjoy them.

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    oh yeah. pascal does like his mealworms..and he loves waxworms. got to be careful on how much of those i feed him though lol. he is starting to get spoiled. About the new viv. yeah it will be coming in the next couple of days the email says. its ground shipment so i guess someone got stuck? I did not know anything about quarantine though...I hope nothing bad will happen. I will keep a close eye on both of them.

    It is true..I got both of them from the same keeper. Both my friend and the keeper i purchased these two from said as long as its temporary they should both be fine. Today i saw Pascal and noticed a faint V shape line of preanal pores too...yay! Ginessa luckily has not reached sexual maturity yet according to the keeper but they will be housed in different vivariums. I dont want hatchlings not yet at least.

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    Hello, nice to meet you and your geckos! And congratulations on your future marriage! I'm still a bit of a newbie myself, but one thing I do definitely know since I had a little bit of a cricket problem myself is that mealworms are really fatty. They're kind of like chips, you shouldn't have a main diet of them. XD I'm not sure what else to recommend though, sorry. I myself have a cute little yellow and white morph who I suspect is male. I think I saw bulges, but doesn't like showing me his underside. Haha, but there was another gecko like him who had a smaller, rounder head and his is very broad, so it's not definite. Well, good luck with your geckos and relationship!

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    Hi there.
    Welcome to GU!
    It sounds like everyone got you off to a good start.
    If you would like help sexing your geckos, you could post pictures of the vent area and we can help. Pascal looks to be of a good size and should be easy to determine sex. Ginessa still looks quite young but we can try.
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    i will get you new pictures of their undersides as soon as i can get them to stay still long enough to check :P
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    They're beautiful. Congrats.

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    Ok so I finally got updated pictures of both Pascal and Ginessa. I measured them and weighed them also.
    Based on diagrams found on the internet, I believe they are both female. But again I would like other opinions from those who are more experienced with finding that out. I have also included their size and weight from both the month of purchase and current.

    Pascal
    12/20/2015
    Size: 4 inches
    Weight: unknown
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    02/12/2016
    Size: 6 inches
    Weight: 23 grams
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    Ginessa
    01/19/2016
    Size: 5 inches
    Weight: unknown
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    02/12/2015
    Size: 5.5 inches
    Weight: 18 grams
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    P.S. With these measurements can anyone tell me roughly how old they are? I have been told many things. They cant be adult, not yet at least.
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    Btw thank you all for so much information. I feel very welcome here and I am glad I found such a supportive and active community with a common interest and love for Leo's

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