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    Hello Breeders

    I myself am not a breeder as of yet, but I'm doing research and constantly learning for if (when) I start to. I have a giant, poss supergiant, super snow 100% het raptor, 66% het blizzard arriving next week.

    What are your opinions on what male I should get to breed her to? This won't obviously be happening for a good amount of time as she's only 3 months old, but I'm interested
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    Think about the different traits she has: giant, raptor (which includes eclipse, albino, stripe, tang), blizzard, snow. It's up to you what you want to go for:

    If you want to see whether or not she's really het blizzard, get a blizzard or het blizzard male.

    All her offspring will be snows. If you want more supersnows, get a snow male.

    You can see where I'm going with this: figure out what you want to shoot for and get the appropriate male.

    Good luck.

    Aliza

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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    Think about the different traits she has: giant, raptor (which includes eclipse, albino, stripe, tang), blizzard, snow. It's up to you what you want to go for:

    If you want to see whether or not she's really het blizzard, get a blizzard or het blizzard male.

    All her offspring will be snows. If you want more supersnows, get a snow male.

    You can see where I'm going with this: figure out what you want to shoot for and get the appropriate male.

    Good luck.

    Aliza
    Ok, thanks for your reply I've looked at the genetics calculators etc, and have worked out that if I pair her with a male mack snow, the different genetic outcomes are 1/16.

    Now my question is, how many eggs is she likely to lay in her first time breeding, and of these, if two babies appear the same, how would I tell what their hets are? As this pairing could give, e.g, mack snow het tremper, mack snow het tremper and eclipse, mack snow het eclipse. Is there any way to tell these apart, other than breeding them when they're ready? What would I sell them as?

    I apologise for my simple questions, but I have to start somewhere
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    I'll try to give a short answer. The female first timer, based on my experience with first timers could produce anywhere from 0-20 viable eggs. Only one way to find out. The whole point about "hets" is that the trait is not visible so there's no way to tell. If you have an animal that displays a recessive trait (Tremper albino, for example) then all the offspring will be either albinos (as long as the other parent has an albino gene) or het for albino. However, if the parent is an albino het, there's no way to know whether the non-albino offspring got the albino gene or not. That's where your 66% het blizzard comes in (I'm not going to try to explain here why it's 66%; maybe someone else wants to do that part). Your choices in these cases are either to keep the offspring and test breed them yourself to find out whether they are hets or not, or to sell them as x% het. I hope that is somewhat clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    I'll try to give a short answer. The female first timer, based on my experience with first timers could produce anywhere from 0-20 viable eggs. Only one way to find out. The whole point about "hets" is that the trait is not visible so there's no way to tell. If you have an animal that displays a recessive trait (Tremper albino, for example) then all the offspring will be either albinos (as long as the other parent has an albino gene) or het for albino. However, if the parent is an albino het, there's no way to know whether the non-albino offspring got the albino gene or not. That's where your 66% het blizzard comes in (I'm not going to try to explain here why it's 66%; maybe someone else wants to do that part). Your choices in these cases are either to keep the offspring and test breed them yourself to find out whether they are hets or not, or to sell them as x% het. I hope that is somewhat clear.

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    Thank you, I understand

    Is the 0-20 viable eggs from one mating? So, eg, the male and female are introduced, mating occurs, then they're separated back to their respective homes and the female lays her eggs in multiple clutches, or do they have to mate more than once to produce multiple clutches?
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    They will produce multiple clutches from one mating but I can't tell you how many because I keep my breeding groups together throughout the breeding season.

    Aliza

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