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    Hello Geckos Unlimited members, recently my leopard gecko has been having some problems. It was just noticed about 3 days ago when I got back from vacation. During vacation my grandparents were feeding her 5 mealworms a day. I made them a detailed list of what the had to do for each of my reptiles so there shouldn't of been any problems. She has eaten mealworms primarily for the past few months. Yes, she is an adult. I've had her for a little more than a year now. She has been completely healthy besides one problem where she had blood in her stool. She was taken to the vet, given an exam and had her feces exams. The vet said that she just had a little constipation and told us to feed smaller amounts everyday rather than larger amounts every other day. So, back on topic.. When I got home i noticed that there was a lump on her stomach. It is in the center and is fairly large (pictures at bottom). I gave her a warm bath yesterday and it felt rather soft and squishy. She has had a bowel movement since ive noticed it and the lump is still there. The only thing i could think of that could of caused this is when the power went out a few hours one of the days we were gone. So thats what i know, and i need help from you guys to figure out whats up. Here are the pictures:

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    Here's her information:
    Age:1 year
    Sex: female
    Weight:75 grams since last time weighed
    Lighting and heating: 40watt day bulb and a red bulb on a dimmer to act as a night time viewing bulb. Also a UTH set on a dimmer
    Temp: 86-88 degrees on the floor of the hotspot
    Tank: 20 gallon long
    Misc: fresh water daily, calcium without d3 in dish, 3 hides and a humid hide, feeders dusted with repashy leopard gecko supplement
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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited. You've come to the right place!

    For starters the lump does not look normal however I have no input on but I'm sure someone else will have an idea or two. Have you taken her to the vet in regards to the lump? There is only so much we can do to help over the Internet

    Mealworms really aren't a good thing to regularly feed your leopard gecko because of its higher fat content and tougher to digest exoskeleton. Crickets or Roaches are the best staple with variety through hornworms, silkworms, butterworms and mealworms.

    The surface temperature on the hot side is sort of low at 86. If your gecko will tolerate it try to get between 90 and 95. Good on you for having a dimmer for the UTH however a thermostat works a lot better

    I'm sure it will help if you fill out this health questionnaire as thorough as possible and include pictures of your enclosure.

    Thank you


    General Information
    Species of lizard:
    Gecko's name:
    Morph:
    Gender:
    Age:
    Weight:
    Total length:
    Length of your reptile when you first acquired it:
    Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner):
    Captive bred or wild caught:

    Vivarium
    Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth):
    Cage (type, size):
    Substrate provided:
    Types of hiding places provided:
    Is there a humidity hide? location?
    Please describe any other furnishings:
    List recent changes in the environment, if any:

    Lighting
    Artificial lighting
    Incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs): wattage(s):
    Fluorescent (tube bulbs):
    Access to ambient daylight from a distant window:

    Heating
    Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage?
    What type and brand of thermometer (digital with probe, temperature gun, LCD strip, analog (circle), combo digital thermometer/hygrometer, stainless steel aquarim type, other):
    What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide:
    What is the air temperature on the warm end about 4 inches up from the ground:
    What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground:
    What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other):
    Ventilation space for your UTH by elevating the tank above the shelf (some UTHs come with sticky feet for the tank corners):
    Are you using a thermostat(s)?
    Which hide does she/he spend most of her time?
    Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much?

    Humidity
    Is the humidity measured?
    Humidity range:

    Diet
    Insects and worms, list type:
    Regular diet fed to the insects and worms:
    Are the insects and worms formally “gutloaded” 1-2 days prior to feeding off to your gecko? If so with?
    How often do you feed your gecko?
    Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often?
    What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both?
    Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without?
    Multivitamins (include brand name)?
    Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet:

    General Health
    If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs:
    Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased?
    Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased?
    Have you noticed any of the following?
    Weight (loss or gain):
    Discharge from the eyes or nose:
    Increased breathing rate or effort:
    Change in the droppings:
    Urates
    ---white or yellowish:
    ---size of urates as compared to size of feces:
    Abnormal skin color or shedding:
    Parasites on the skin or in the feces:
    Weakness:

    Previous problems and/or illnesses:

    Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household
    List other animals that are kept in the same cage:
    Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months):
    Are any of your other pets ill?
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    I had a gecko with a lump like that and it was an abdominal hernia. That's when the tissue that holds the viscera (like the intestines) in place has an opening and those internal parts bulge out. You may be able to push the lump back in (it won't stay in). I had this diagnosed by a vet. We decided that since the gecko wasn't in pain that we'd not do anything about it because the vet was concerned that the danger of gecko anesthesia was greater than than the danger of leaving her alone. I did retire her from breeding immediately. She lived another 2 or 3 years and then died suddely, possibly because of the hernia.

    Aliza

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeckoManiac91 View Post
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited. You've come to the right place!

    For starters the lump does not look normal however I have no input on but I'm sure someone else will have an idea or two. Have you taken her to the vet in regards to the lump? There is only so much we can do to help over the Internet

    Mealworms really aren't a good thing to regularly feed your leopard gecko because of its higher fat content and tougher to digest exoskeleton. Crickets or Roaches are the best staple with variety through hornworms, silkworms, butterworms and mealworms.

    The surface temperature on the hot side is sort of low at 86. If your gecko will tolerate it try to get between 90 and 95. Good on you for having a dimmer for the UTH however a thermostat works a lot better

    I'm sure it will help if you fill out this health questionnaire as thorough as possible and include pictures of your enclosure.

    Thank you


    General Information
    Species of lizard:
    Gecko's name:
    Morph:
    Gender:
    Age:
    Weight:
    Total length:
    Length of your reptile when you first acquired it:
    Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner):
    Captive bred or wild caught:

    Vivarium
    Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth):
    Cage (type, size):
    Substrate provided:
    Types of hiding places provided:
    Is there a humidity hide? location?
    Please describe any other furnishings:
    List recent changes in the environment, if any:

    Lighting
    Artificial lighting
    Incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs): wattage(s):
    Fluorescent (tube bulbs):
    Access to ambient daylight from a distant window:

    Heating
    Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage?
    What type and brand of thermometer (digital with probe, temperature gun, LCD strip, analog (circle), combo digital thermometer/hygrometer, stainless steel aquarim type, other):
    What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide:
    What is the air temperature on the warm end about 4 inches up from the ground:
    What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground:
    What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other):
    Ventilation space for your UTH by elevating the tank above the shelf (some UTHs come with sticky feet for the tank corners):
    Are you using a thermostat(s)?
    Which hide does she/he spend most of her time?
    Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much?

    Humidity
    Is the humidity measured?
    Humidity range:

    Diet
    Insects and worms, list type:
    Regular diet fed to the insects and worms:
    Are the insects and worms formally “gutloaded” 1-2 days prior to feeding off to your gecko? If so with?
    How often do you feed your gecko?
    Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often?
    What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both?
    Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without?
    Multivitamins (include brand name)?
    Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet:

    General Health
    If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs:
    Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased?
    Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased?
    Have you noticed any of the following?
    Weight (loss or gain):
    Discharge from the eyes or nose:
    Increased breathing rate or effort:
    Change in the droppings:
    Urates
    ---white or yellowish:
    ---size of urates as compared to size of feces:
    Abnormal skin color or shedding:
    Parasites on the skin or in the feces:
    Weakness:

    Previous problems and/or illnesses:

    Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household
    List other animals that are kept in the same cage:
    Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months):
    Are any of your other pets ill?

    General Information
    Species of lizard: Leopard gecko
    Gecko's name: Wrigley
    Morph: not for sure but seems to be a hypo
    Gender: female
    Age:1
    Weight:75 grams or so
    Total length: 8-10 inches
    Length of your reptile when you first acquired it:
    Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner):
    Captive bred or wild caught:1

    Vivarium
    Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth):
    Cage (type, size): glass tank; 20 gallon long
    Substrate provided: cage carpet
    Types of hiding places provided: warm hide, cold hide, log and humid hide
    Is there a humidity hide? location? Yes, in the center
    Please describe any other furnishings: water dish; calcium dish
    List recent changes in the environment, if any:

    Lighting
    Artificial lighting
    Incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs): day buld and night bulb wattage(s): 40 and 75(on a dimmer)
    Fluorescent (tube bulbs):
    Access to ambient daylight from a distant window: yes

    Heating
    Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage? Yes
    What type and brand of thermometer (digital with probe, temperature gun, LCD strip, analog (circle), combo digital thermometer/hygrometer, stainless steel aquarim type, other): digital with probe
    What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide: 87-90
    What is the air temperature on the warm end about 4 inches up from the ground:
    What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground: 75-80
    What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other): 2 bulbs and a UTH
    Ventilation space for your UTH by elevating the tank above the shelf (some UTHs come with sticky feet for the tank corners):yes
    Are you using a thermostat(s)?dimmer, yes
    Which hide does she/he spend most of her time?warm hide and sometimes on the floor in the center
    Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much?yes about 5-10 degrees

    Humidity
    Is the humidity measured? Yes
    Humidity range: 30-40%

    Diet
    Insects and worms, list type: mainly mealworms with some crickets
    Regular diet fed to the insects and worms: carrots and lettuce
    Are the insects and worms formally “gutloaded” 1-2 days prior to feeding off to your gecko? If so with? Yes
    How often do you feed your gecko? Small amounts every day
    Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often? Repashys leopard gecko supplement and zoo med calcium with out d3
    What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both?
    Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without?without is in tank
    Multivitamins (include brand name)? Repashy does it all
    Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet:

    General Health
    If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs: soft lump on stomach; past 2-3 days
    Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased? Normal level
    Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased? Normal
    Have you noticed any of the following?
    Weight (loss or gain):
    Discharge from the eyes or nose:
    Increased breathing rate or effort:
    Change in the droppings:
    Urates
    ---white or yellowish:white
    ---size of urates as compared to size of feces:smaller
    Abnormal skin color or shedding:
    Parasites on the skin or in the feces:
    Weakness:

    Previous problems and/or illnesses: had a problem with her bowel movements a month or two or go. There was blood in the feces. It was detirmined to be constipation by a vet

    Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household
    List other animals that are kept in the same cage:
    Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months): bearded dragon
    Are any of your other pets ill?no
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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    I had a gecko with a lump like that and it was an abdominal hernia. That's when the tissue that holds the viscera (like the intestines) in place has an opening and those internal parts bulge out. You may be able to push the lump back in (it won't stay in). I had this diagnosed by a vet. We decided that since the gecko wasn't in pain that we'd not do anything about it because the vet was concerned that the danger of gecko anesthesia was greater than than the danger of leaving her alone. I did retire her from breeding immediately. She lived another 2 or 3 years and then died suddely, possibly because of the hernia.

    Aliza
    Im sorry that that happened I really hope thats not the problem with mine. She isn't a breeder but a pet that a lot of my family love very much. I would hate to see her die because of something like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhahn678 View Post
    General Information
    Species of lizard: Leopard gecko
    Gecko's name: Wrigley
    Morph: not for sure but seems to be a hypo
    Gender: female
    Age:1
    Weight:75 grams or so
    Total length: 8-10 inches
    Length of your reptile when you first acquired it:
    Source (pet store, breeder, previous owner):
    Captive bred or wild caught:1

    Vivarium
    Enclosure dimensions (length x width x heighth):
    Cage (type, size): glass tank; 20 gallon long
    Substrate provided: cage carpet
    Types of hiding places provided: warm hide, cold hide, log and humid hide
    Is there a humidity hide? location? Yes, in the center
    Please describe any other furnishings: water dish; calcium dish
    List recent changes in the environment, if any:

    Lighting
    Artificial lighting
    Incandescent (“screw-in” bulbs): day buld and night bulb wattage(s): 40 and 75(on a dimmer)
    Fluorescent (tube bulbs):
    Access to ambient daylight from a distant window: yes

    Heating
    Do you have a thermometer(s) in the cage? Yes
    What type and brand of thermometer (digital with probe, temperature gun, LCD strip, analog (circle), combo digital thermometer/hygrometer, stainless steel aquarim type, other): digital with probe
    What is the ground temperature right on the substrate under the warm dry hide: 87-90
    What is the air temperature on the warm end about 4 inches up from the ground:
    What is the air temperature on the cool end about 4 inches up from the ground: 75-80
    What device(s) are used to maintain the temperature (Under Tank Heater, heat light, ceramic heat emitter, Flexwatt heat tape, hot rock, other): 2 bulbs and a UTH
    Ventilation space for your UTH by elevating the tank above the shelf (some UTHs come with sticky feet for the tank corners):yes
    Are you using a thermostat(s)?dimmer, yes
    Which hide does she/he spend most of her time?warm hide and sometimes on the floor in the center
    Is the temperature decreased at night? by how much?yes about 5-10 degrees

    Humidity
    Is the humidity measured? Yes
    Humidity range: 30-40%

    Diet
    Insects and worms, list type: mainly mealworms with some crickets
    Regular diet fed to the insects and worms: carrots and lettuce
    Are the insects and worms formally “gutloaded” 1-2 days prior to feeding off to your gecko? If so with? Yes
    How often do you feed your gecko? Small amounts every day
    Please list any supplements (with brand names) used. How are they given and how often? Repashys leopard gecko supplement and zoo med calcium with out d3
    What calcium brand are you using? with D3, without or both?
    Is the calcium in the tank with D3 or without?without is in tank
    Multivitamins (include brand name)? Repashy does it all
    Please list any recent additions/changes in the diet:

    General Health
    If your gecko is sick, please describe the signs and how long your gecko has been showing these signs: soft lump on stomach; past 2-3 days
    Is your gecko’s general activity level normal, decreased, or increased? Normal level
    Is your gecko’s appetite normal, decreased, or increased? Normal
    Have you noticed any of the following?
    Weight (loss or gain):
    Discharge from the eyes or nose:
    Increased breathing rate or effort:
    Change in the droppings:
    Urates
    ---white or yellowish:white
    ---size of urates as compared to size of feces:smaller
    Abnormal skin color or shedding:
    Parasites on the skin or in the feces:
    Weakness:

    Previous problems and/or illnesses: had a problem with her bowel movements a month or two or go. There was blood in the feces. It was detirmined to be constipation by a vet

    Other Critters in Same Cage or in Household
    List other animals that are kept in the same cage:
    Recent acquisitions (new pets within the past 6 months): bearded dragon
    Are any of your other pets ill?no
    Thank you for taking the time to fill out that tedious questionnaire, it will sure help
    Perhaps a picture of your enclosure?

    Just a few things I have to mention:

    How are you measuring the ambient air temperature? You mentioned only have a thermomemeter with a probe which will work if dangling about 4inches above the ground however you did not have a warm side air temperature?

    Your cool side is a bit too hot. Recommend temps are as follows...
    Warm side surface temp: 88-95
    Warm side air temperate: 80-85
    Cool side air temperature: 70-75

    I too hope your gecko does not meet the same fate as Aliza's Very sad to hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeckoManiac91 View Post
    Thank you for taking the time to fill out that tedious questionnaire, it will sure help
    Perhaps a picture of your enclosure?

    Just a few things I have to mention:

    How are you measuring the ambient air temperature? You mentioned only have a thermomemeter with a probe which will work if dangling about 4inches above the ground however you did not have a warm side air temperature?

    Your cool side is a bit too hot. Recommend temps are as follows...
    Warm side surface temp: 88-95
    Warm side air temperate: 80-85
    Cool side air temperature: 70-75

    I too hope your gecko does not meet the same fate as Aliza's Very sad to hear.
    I suppose i could adjust the temps of the UTH a little higher and dim the red bulb a little more to fix the temps. I can not put up a picture until tomorrow as i am at my dad's house. Also i do not usually moniter the air temps because adjusting them without changing surface temps would involve alot of experimenting with bulbs and the UTH. However, the air temperature on the warm side is in that range so all is good. Is there anything thing else you would recommend? Would you also predict that this is a hernia? What would need to be done about this? I've heard of surgeries to fix this but I don't know if they would be affordable...

    Thank you for the help and quick responses by the way. They have helped a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhahn678 View Post
    I suppose i could adjust the temps of the UTH a little higher and dim the red bulb a little more to fix the temps. I can not put up a picture until tomorrow as i am at my dad's house. Also i do not usually moniter the air temps because adjusting them without changing surface temps would involve alot of experimenting with bulbs and the UTH. However, the air temperature on the warm side is in that range so all is good. Is there anything thing else you would recommend? Would you also predict that this is a hernia? What would need to be done about this? I've heard of surgeries to fix this but I don't know if they would be affordable...

    Thank you for the help and quick responses by the way. They have helped a lot
    If you use a thermostat with your UTH it will keep it at the temperature you have it set too so not too much experimenting with bulbs. Plus, your bulb should have a dimmer. It is really important to have proper air temperatures to allow for better thermoregulation as well as other things, best to check and measure those

    One suggestion I will make is possible ditching the bulbs completely and using a CHE? It gives off no light, just heat, so can be used day and night if you wish. It also works fantastic (and should be used) with a thermostat. You mention having day light coming in through the window so a day/night light cycle will be provided right there

    I apologize though, I have no input on the possible hernia/lump. However a vet visit regarding it is in order I believe. On top of what Aliza has said I'm positive someone else will check in with more ideas
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeckoManiac91 View Post
    If you use a thermostat with your UTH it will keep it at the temperature you have it set too so not too much experimenting with bulbs. Plus, your bulb should have a dimmer. It is really important to have proper air temperatures to allow for better thermoregulation as well as other things, best to check and measure those

    One suggestion I will make is possible ditching the bulbs completely and using a CHE? It gives off no light, just heat, so can be used day and night if you wish. It also works fantastic (and should be used) with a thermostat. You mention having day light coming in through the window so a day/night light cycle will be provided right there

    I apologize though, I have no input on the possible hernia/lump. However a vet visit regarding it is in order I believe. On top of what Aliza has said I'm positive someone else will check in with more ideas

    Thank you for the suggestions I will further look into them. Thank you for all the help you have given. It is much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    I had a gecko with a lump like that and it was an abdominal hernia. That's when the tissue that holds the viscera (like the intestines) in place has an opening and those internal parts bulge out. You may be able to push the lump back in (it won't stay in). I had this diagnosed by a vet. We decided that since the gecko wasn't in pain that we'd not do anything about it because the vet was concerned that the danger of gecko anesthesia was greater than than the danger of leaving her alone. I did retire her from breeding immediately. She lived another 2 or 3 years and then died suddely, possibly because of the hernia.

    Aliza
    Quote Originally Posted by jhahn678 View Post
    Im sorry that that happened I really hope thats not the problem with mine. She isn't a breeder but a pet that a lot of my family love very much. I would hate to see her die because of something like that...

    Aliza ~

    Did your vet give you any ideas about why your leo might have developed the hernia? This is the first time I have seen a leo with this problem.

    Do you think there could be any connection with hernias and high chitin diets like a mealworm diet?
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 08-19-2013 at 04:50 AM.
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