Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 27
  1. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default


    LOG IN TO CLOSE THIS AD   


    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Keep mealworms on a low phosphorus bedding. They are what they eat. Maybe someone else has more mealie suggestions.

    Romaine lettuce contains vitamin A: https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/s...ne+lettuce&ds=

    Click this United States Department of Agriculture link. Then type in most any food. Vitamin A content is listed right there.

    https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
    What is a low phosphorus bedding??

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    USA: Oregon
    Posts
    21,481
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    81 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by vipr9 View Post
    What is a low phosphorus bedding??
    A low phosphorus bedding has a minimal phosphorus content. It's the stuff the mealworms lie in and in which they breed. I've kept and bred mealies in Alber's All Purpose Poultry Feed. Zoo Med's Natural Adult Bearded Dragon Food will probably work too.


    We wish to approximate a 1.5-2.0 calcium : 1.0 phosphorus ratio with the insects and worms we feed our geckos.

    With the exception of Phoenix worms (BSFL) all the bugs and worms we feed our geckos are much higher in phosphorus than calcium. Feeding high phosphorus foods to the bugs/worms makes correcting that imbalance impossible. Phosphorus interferes with the absorption of calcium. That's why phosphorus-free supplements are best, or at least supplements with very low phosphorus content.

    We lightly dust bugs and worms to correct this imbalance. Dusting should not be the "whole" story. That's why it's best to feed bugs and worms the best dry diet possible 24/7 plus adding low phosphorus/high calcium veggies in a dish off to the side (for example: collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, and pesticide-free dandelions/greens).


    EXAMPLES OF HIGH PHOSPHORUS MEALWORM BEDDINGS!
    Click: Foods List
    Enter some food like wheat germ
    Scroll down for calcium and phosphorus per 100 grams, for instance, and compare

    • Wheat Germ -- Show Foods
      calcium 39
      phosphorus 842
      ratio: 1 part calcium : 22 parts phosphorus

    • Wheat Bran -- Show Foods
      calcium 73
      phosphorus 1,013
      ratio: 1 part calcium : 14 parts phosphorus

    • Oats -- Show Foods
      calcium 54
      phosphorus 523
      ratio: 1 part calcium : 10 parts phosphorus
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 10-04-2016 at 01:57 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Ok, I ordered the zoo med calcium w. d3, reptivite w/o d3, and the adult natural bearded dragon food for gutload. So I basically blend the bearded dragon pellets into a fine powder and feed it to both the crickets and mealworms? When I buy mealworms they come in aboout an inch tall container packed with about 100 worms. My plan is to move them into a bigger tuperware container with the powder in it too, sound good? Do I still refrigerate the worms? I got some romaine lettuce too.
    Thanks Elizabeth Freer thanked for this post
    Likes Elizabeth Freer liked this post

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    USA: Oregon
    Posts
    21,481
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    81 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by vipr9 View Post
    Ok, I ordered the zoo med calcium w. d3, reptivite w/o d3, and the adult natural bearded dragon food for gutload. So I basically blend the bearded dragon pellets into a fine powder and feed it to both the crickets and mealworms? When I buy mealworms they come in aboout an inch tall container packed with about 100 worms. My plan is to move them into a bigger tuperware container with the powder in it too, sound good? Do I still refrigerate the worms? I got some romaine lettuce too.
    All that sounds sweet!

    I use a Krups coffee/spice grinder from Bed, Bath, & Beyond to pulverize my Zoo Med Adult beardie food.

    Move the mealworms to a larger container. There are loads of options "out there".

    @acpart (Aliza) recommends keeping mealworms at room temps and NOT refrigerating them at all.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Just an update. I tried feeding her with the lights off an the improvement was massive. She ate 6 crickets in the time she usually could get one. She even got some I didn't even remove the legs from!

    I already received the bearded dragon food, after blending it for the crickets do I put it in a small bowl in the cricket enclosure or what?
    Likes Elizabeth Freer liked this post

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    USA: Oregon
    Posts
    21,481
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    81 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by vipr9 View Post
    Just an update. I tried feeding her with the lights off an the improvement was massive. She ate 6 crickets in the time she usually could get one. She even got some I didn't even remove the legs from!

    I already received the bearded dragon food, after blending it for the crickets do I put it in a small bowl in the cricket enclosure or what?
    on cricket catching and eating with lights off!

    You could place the ground beardie food in a shallow lid. I just sprinkle some on the floor of the cricket enclosure and replace when nearly gone.

    Cover the beardie food with a couple layers of egg crates and then a paper towel. Spray the paper towel once a day. Leave chopped romaine in a shallow lid/dish.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 10-07-2016 at 04:43 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
    Thanks vipr9 thanked for this post

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Caracas, Venezuela
    Posts
    1,715
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Great news!! Sometimes I have witnessed that (specially albinos) do much better with the lights off.
    Saskia!

    7.9.0 Eublepharis macularius - Leopard Geckos
    1.3.0 Hemitheconyx caudicinctus - African Fat Tailed Gecko
    2.1.0 Correlophus ciliatus - Crested Gecko


    ..."don't breed or buy while homeless die"...
    Likes vipr9, Elizabeth Freer liked this post

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Ok so when I ground up the dragon food into a powder and put the mealworms in, they basically get "dusted" by the dragon food. I'm assuming the dragon food is ok for leos to eat a small amount?

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    USA: Oregon
    Posts
    21,481
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    81 Post(s)
    Tagged
    9 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by vipr9 View Post
    Ok so when I ground up the dragon food into a powder and put the mealworms in, they basically get "dusted" by the dragon food. I'm assuming the dragon food is ok for leos to eat a small amount?
    Eating mealworms "dusted" by that beardie powder is fine. No worries there.

    That's more direct than having the beardie food in the mealworms' guts and then feeding those mealies to leos.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 10-07-2016 at 08:51 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

  10. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default


    LOG IN TO CLOSE THIS AD   


    What do you think about leaving mealworms in the tank? Also when they get the vitamins 2x a month is it on the calcium day or no? That would mean calcium 2x a month too.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

User Tag List

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •