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    Quote Originally Posted by Zux
    As for minimum dimensions, one can source quality light units nowadays which safely project low index UVB light at a strength of about 3-4% around 1 foot from the face of the bulb, so the absolute minimum I would suggest in terms of height would around 30cm approx.
    Hi Shane ~

    So 30 cms = an 11.8 inches high enclosure.

    Which UVB light units do you recommend?

    I notice that your leos and AFTs are housed in 48L x 24W x 18H inch long enclosures. What do you feel is a "safe" minimum enclosure length for providing a leopard gecko with UVB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymmie View Post
    I don't leave my UVB on 12 hours a day even for my chameleons. I actually notice eye issues more often with 12 hour a day uvb no matter whether it is a linear tub or not. In fact what I do is I use sunlight, for all my reptiles as the constant sun source. Leos get 15 minutes a day, if they don't get out every day, they get out an over all at least 3 hours a week. Depending on which chameleon, one of my chameleons will get out for at least 2 hours a day (he gets no other UVB) and for my other chameleon she get 30 minutes every other day and gets 6-8 hours of artificial UVB. My blue tongue skink gets 5-8 hours of sun total through out the week with around 6 hours of artificial UVB. My tortoise spends good days outside the entire time, otherwise he gets artificial UVB.

    I have seen far too many chameleons with eye problems that weren't able to be solved when taken to the vet or tried to be solved with vitamins. I am now dealing with my male panther chameleon having gone completely blind and he is now showing the best improvement with only his basking light on. If I turn his artificial UVB on even for a couple hours he slides back to much worse and I have to work for weeks to get him back where he needs to be. All my cages have full shade availability even in the basking zone. It's just not natural to have UVB that strong 12 hours a day.
    Hi Cymmie ~

    How is your male panther cham doing? What are the dimensions of his enclosure?

    Are you continuing to use UVB for as many hours as you recommend in this post?
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    He is better for sure, I don't think he will ever be... completely able to see. But he can notice shapes and shadows etc. I am still hand feeding, he drinks on his own. He spends almost 4+ hours everyday outside, my new rescue boy (veiled chameleon with mild MBD) is only going out 2 hours a day but has liquid calcium in low amounts in his daily diet as well, just to make sure he is healing well. He now is eating on his own, and walking without any shaking in his limbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cymmie View Post
    He is better for sure, I don't think he will ever be... completely able to see. But he can notice shapes and shadows etc. I am still hand feeding, he drinks on his own. He spends almost 4+ hours everyday outside, my new rescue boy (veiled chameleon with mild MBD) is only going out 2 hours a day but has liquid calcium in low amounts in his daily diet as well, just to make sure he is healing well. He now is eating on his own, and walking without any shaking in his limbs.


    It sounds like you may live in a sunny place.
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    Thankfully I do, Central California, as long as the ambient temps are above 75 it's safe for day time weather, if sun is shining or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post

    Which UVB light units do you recommend?

    Currently, High Output T5 (tube style) bulbs are the best choice for UVB provision, effectively irrespective of enclosure size and style. I use Arcadia lighting exclusively, but as I understand it, Zoo-Med tech is not far behind at all in terms of quality.

    In terms of the model to purchase (length / output), this will fundamentally depend on the height of the enclosure, aswell as the presence of screen lids which inevitably filter (reduce) the usable radiation.


    I notice that your leos and AFTs are housed in 48L x 24W x 18H inch long enclosures. What do you feel is a "safe" minimum enclosure length for providing a leopard gecko with UVB?

    Enclosure length is required only in the sense that we should be providing a gradient of UVB just as we do heat, as-long as an enclosure is long enough to achieve this, providing areas of partial to complete shade, this is sufficient. Though of course, the bigger the better for many other reasons.

    Height wise, there are options out there now for almost any configuration, it is just up to the owner to do some checking to determine the model they will require, In my case, in those enclosures you mentioned, I provide a 6% H0-T5 to both Leos and AFT's. 6% is appropriate here because the screen lids of their enclosures filter out roughly 35-40% of the usable UVB which results in a UV Index of about 2 over the basking zone (warm side)
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    Oh and since we are going into winter weather here, I end up switching to artificial UVB for most of the reptiles, except the chams (especially Ryker). Ryker I make sure to get at least 4-6 hours a week of sun/outside time, and Neptune around the same.
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