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    Hi guys. My leopard gecko Salvador has been having problems with her eyes. It started maybe two months ago after a shed. We noticed there was skin trapped in her eyes which we removed gently with a cotton bud. This seemed to help but every shed she would have the same problem. She’s two and a half and has never had this problem before. A few weeks ago her eyes seemed to be much worse and sunken, and she dropped weigh very quickly. We took her to a specialist who gave us medicine, a formula to feed her and a supplement to bathe her in. We took her back after a week of daily feeding and bathing and she had gained weight but her eyes were very much the same. Last week we spoke to the vet over the phone and said that she still couldn’t see. The advice given was to put her to sleep. We have continued feeding her and she is gaining weight. Her eyes seem less sunk and are opening up. However, there seems to be scabs over her eye balls. I’m not sure if this is skin that has dried on or if these are her eyes and she is now completely blind. I have attached photos and any advice would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for the long post but she’s part of the family and we don’t want to give up in her.

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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited! We'll see whether we can help. Salvador could have a vitamin deficiency.

    Is Salvador able to catch her own food from a feeding bowl or free-range? If she's blind, she'll be dependent upon you for life.

    Which brand and type of supplements are you using? What diet do you feed Salvador's bugs and worms?

    Vitamin A acetate (retinol) is particularly necessary to prevent eye problems. But only a wee pinch @ 1 feeding per week is necessary. Otherwise there could be an overdose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited! We'll see whether we can help. Salvador could have a vitamin deficiency.

    Is Salvador able to catch her own food from a feeding bowl or free-range? If she's blind, she'll be dependent upon you for life.

    Which brand and type of supplements are you using? What diet do you feed Salvador's bugs and worms?

    Vitamin A acetate (retinol) is particularly necessary to prevent eye problems. But only a wee pinch @ 1 feeding per week is necessary. Otherwise there could be an overdose.
    This just reminded me of a study I found recently. It seems leopard geckos are one of the ones that can assimilate b carotene. If I decided to buy a Leo, I would still use a vitamin A acetate supplement once a month and use Herptivite more frequently instead. Of course it will be different for those who do rely on D3 in supplements. Hope this link works
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29797444/#fft
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    Elizabeth- Do you think it would be a good idea? I’m thinking Reptivite without D3(using UVB) once a month and Herptivite maybe once a week? I figured since it’s beta carotene, it’s safer. And plain calcium twice a week.

    Sorry to the OP if I’m high hacking your thread, but this can help your leo as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sg612 View Post
    This just reminded me of a study I found recently. It seems leopard geckos are one of the ones that can assimilate b carotene. If I decided to buy a Leo, I would still use a vitamin A acetate supplement once a month and use Herptivite more frequently instead. Of course it will be different for those who do rely on D3 in supplements. Hope this link works
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29797444/#fft
    Thanks for sharing this 2018 article.

    Hopefully I'll return to this thread soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sg612 View Post
    This just reminded me of a study I found recently. It seems leopard geckos are one of the ones that can assimilate b carotene. If I decided to buy a Leo, I would still use a vitamin A acetate supplement once a month and use Herptivite more frequently instead. Of course it will be different for those who do rely on D3 in supplements. Hope this link works
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29797444/#fft
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    Elizabeth- Do you think it would be a good idea? I’m thinking Reptivite without D3(using UVB) once a month and Herptivite maybe once a week? I figured since it’s beta carotene, it’s safer. And plain calcium twice a week.

    Sorry to the OP if I’m high hacking your thread, but this can help your leo as well.
    The PubMed link you've shared seems to represent groundbreaking research! Based upon chameleon research prior to this 2018 study, it was discovered that some lizards didn't absorb beta-carotene very well, that some lizards needed a little retinol first. Now we have some reputable research done on leopard geckos to guide us!

    Since you're using UVB your plan sounds mostly good. Fran Baines, DVM (admin of FB's Reptile Lighting group & reptile lighting guru) recommends adding a backup dose of calcium with D3 @ 1 feeding per month. I'm suggesting Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 @ 1 feeding per month in place of the 2nd dose of plain calcium that week.
    • Zoo Med's Reptivite without D3 @ 1 feeding per month
    • Rep Cal's Herptivite @ 3 feedings per month
    • Plain precipitated calcium carbonate @ 2 feedings per week (Zoo Med or human grade NOW) for leopard geckos up to 12 months old. Reduce to 1 feeding per week for leopard geckos 12 months old + if the leo is walking well and in good shape.
    • Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 @ 1 feeding per month in place of 1 of the plain Repti Calcium doses that week


    Excessive calcium coats the digestive tract and can prevent absorption of key nutrients.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 12-10-2018 at 01:13 PM. Reason: I clarified Dr. Baines recommendation.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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