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    I have a male Leo who is about 6 months old. Everything has been going fine up until recently. I went on vacation for about a week,and when I came back you could tell something was different. His mouth looks like its constantly parted. But if you look closely, it looks more like his lips have shrunken. I thought gr may have gotten a little dehydrated when I was away.

    It doesn't seem to bother him at all. His appetite is strong and he doesn't seem to be in pain. Should I be considered??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matcha View Post
    I have a male Leo who is about 6 months old. Everything has been going fine up until recently. I went on vacation for about a week,and when I came back you could tell something was different. His mouth looks like its constantly parted. But if you look closely, it looks more like his lips have shrunken. I thought gr may have gotten a little dehydrated when I was away.

    It doesn't seem to bother him at all. His appetite is strong and he doesn't seem to be in pain. Should I be considered??
    The only thing visible is retained shed. No one can be sure there’s nothing more going on for example inside the mouth. If you notice any changes in behavior, no appetite, etc.. take him to a vet.

    Does your Leo have a humidity hide? Can you post a picture of his enclosure?

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    This is Oberon or Obi for short

    He does not have a humidity hide. I actually have another 10 year old Leo, and I was never aware that it was a necessity 😅I've provided a better picture where you can see his mouth better.
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    The inside of his mouth needs to be examined by a vet. It’s important to take him as soon as possible. In the meantime add a humidity hide and place it on the warm end for him. What are the temperatures in the enclosure? Type of thermometer? Are you using a thermostat?
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    Hello ~

    Obi may have mouth rot. What does the inside of his mouth look like? In the first picture it appears that Obi also has a significant overbite where the upper jaw extends unnaturally over the lower jaw. A vet visit is your best option.

    Please tell us more about the supplements you use including brand and frequency. Include what you feed Obi's bugs and worms.

    Here's a homemade humid hide.
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Hello ~

    Obi may have mouth rot. What does the inside of his mouth look like? In the first picture it appears that Obi also has a significant underbite where the upper jaw extends unnaturally over the lower jaw. A vet visit is your best option.

    Please tell us more about the supplements you use including brand and frequency. Include what you feed Obi's bugs and worms.

    Here's a homemade humid hide.
    IMG_0234 (1).jpg
    I tried to get him to open his mouth last night to check, but couldn't. I will set up a appointment though. He originally never had an overbite. It's due to his mouth issue, I think. Can they develop that as they get older?? He does get mealworms on the daily dusted with calcium D3. Ocassioanly I'll feed him some waxworms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matcha View Post
    I tried to get him to open his mouth last night to check, but couldn't. I will set up a appointment though. He originally never had an overbite. It's due to his mouth issue, I think. Can they develop that as they get older?? He does get mealworms on the daily dusted with calcium D3. Ocassioanly I'll feed him some waxworms.
    This video has ideas for getting a leo to open his mouth.

    An overbite and mouth rot are probably unrelated. Either problem can happen no matter what age a leo is. Obi may have a calcium deficiency as well as mouth rot.

    Which brand of calcium with D3 are you using? Daily dusting? All brands are somewhat different. Are you using a multivitamin as well?

    How are the mealworms set up? What do you feed them? Does Obi eat anything else besides mealworms and waxworms now and then?
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    UPDATE:

    Hey Everyone!

    I just wanted to give a quick update with Obi. First I want to thank everybody who helped with their suggestions. I really appreciated it. Obi's mouth is healing just fine. I did not take him to the vet, but I did manage to get him to open his mouth and there was not any bleeding. I actually found a method where you take peroxide and dilute it with water and just rub it along the sore. I did that for a couple of weeks and it seemed to get better. The swelling went down completely.

    I'm not sure if most of you guys noticed, but the tip of his nose actually looked like it had caved in. But after a couple of sheds and the wipe down treatment, it's back to being rounded! It looks like after a couple of more sheds he'll look even better!

    But once again, thank you everyone for your help.
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