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    So my fiance and I have three leopard geckos;
    one's his (giant ph eclipse tangerine jungle tremper) her names Fanta, FANTA.jpg

    ones mine (mack snow leopard) her names Pho, PHO.jpg

    and one we co-own (banded tangerine ) her names Terra... TERRA.jpg

    Though I'm usually the one who feeds, and waters them every morning. It's been on and off, but I'm officially reaching out for help for his Giant jungle tremper Fanta. For a giant she is WAY smaller than our other two geckos. She used to be HUGE, but I've been having issues getting her to eat, she used to go ham on anything in sight, Dubia, crickets, horn worms, wax worms, meal worms, etc... and now it's a struggle to get her to eat anything and it shows.

    She also stays inside her warm hide (set at 85 degrees) and at least that I've seen, stays in here unless I take her out to try to feed her, or spot clean.

    (Over the passed few months...) At one point she completely stopped eating Dubia, so I figured maybe she got bored with her staple, and moved onto something new, tried giant meal worms, but after a couple bowls she lost interest. Swapped back and forth between crickets, and hornworms, and did that regularly until one day I noticed she hadn't even touched the three crickets I had put in before I went to work, and she'd turn away from the horn worms when I offered them.

    We got the Flucker's food/calcium powder mix, and tried syringe feeding, she'd get through most of it, but she won't always take it; most recently (about three days ago) I got her to eat 6 wax worms, and since then she won't take anything.

    I've brought this up to my fiance, but he's never dealt with this, and since I'm usually the only one that feeds them, and the other two are doing well, fat tails and happy gecko faces all around, I don't want to fail our third.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated, please and thank you!!!!!!

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    are they housed together? if so, separate her asap. if not, I'd get her tested for parasites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    are they housed together? if so, separate her asap. if not, I'd get her tested for parasites.
    Nope! They are all housed separately. We just moved out of state so I'm trying to find a vet nearby that will do exotics... in the mean time, trying to figure out if I'm doing something wrong, or maybe overlooked something silly.

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    have you looked inside her mouth for injury or infection?
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    85 degrees ground or air temp? How long have you guys had her? Age? Supplements? Picture of her enclosure may help.

    Make sure to get her seen by a vet. Weight loss is nothing to take lightly. Unfortunately what works for one may not work for another. Some like temps higher, some lower. Some don’t like humid hides and become dehydrated easier when humidity is too low in the enclosure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimless View Post
    have you looked inside her mouth for injury or infection?
    I took a peak this morning at all three, her being last, nothing looks enflamed, red, puffy, etc, they all look the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sg612 View Post
    85 degrees ground or air temp? How long have you guys had her? Age? Supplements? Picture of her enclosure may help.

    Make sure to get her seen by a vet. Weight loss is nothing to take lightly. Unfortunately what works for one may not work for another. Some like temps higher, some lower. Some don’t like humid hides and become dehydrated easier when humidity is too low in the enclosure.
    Air temp is about 74-78* the room is set to 75 so it fluctuates a bit, belly temp is set on a thermostat i have set at ~86* but the probe says its usually 84-85*

    We've had her since October of 2017, I can't remember exactly how old she was when we got her, but she's I'm gonna estimate around 1.5-2 years. - It wasn't until the last few months that she's been having issues... always get our food from the same distributor, I dust with a multi-vitamin once a month, calcium without d3 four days a month, and calcium with d3 the rest of the time.

    I'll have to snag a picture of her enclosure when I get home, I don't have one on my phone currently, but she's in a 10gal, I'm not running any overhead bulbs, but she has one hide on the left of the tank where her heat mat is, and she has another hide on the other side with no heat, and a small plant suctioned to the side aswell, water bowl is in the middle.

    &Yeah, like I said we just moved so I'm still trying to find a new vet in the area that will examine this type of "exotic" so that is en process. I picked her up this morning & got her to eat a little bit of the powder food / water mix after I checked her mouth for anything weird, I'm gonna try to get her to eat a little bit more when I get home & I'll grab a picture of her setup.

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    What is Flucker's food/calcium powder mix? A picture please.
    What multivitamin(brand)?
    What calcium with d3(brand)? You stated the rest of the time. Can you guess about how many days a month?
    Do you use an actual thermometer to check the temperatures?
    Is this the temperature all your Leos have been provided with? Possibly under heated.
    What hide does she spend most of her time in?picture of hide will be very helpful.
    Is the humidity monitored? If so what is it?
    No humidity hide?

    I would move her out of that beef jerky machine/dehydration box to something longer. This will allow more hides and a better temperature gradient. Then, go punch the person who told you a 10 gallon was suitable in the face. Just kidding, please don’t do that.

    Providing no photoperiod (lighting) can be problematic. Some will go off food without it. Females can develop serious egg related problem which will require a vet to feel the abdomen along with radiographs and/or ultrasound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GT5qu1d View Post
    Air temp is about 74-78* the room is set to 75 so it fluctuates a bit, belly temp is set on a thermostat i have set at ~86* but the probe says its usually 84-85*

    We've had her since October of 2017, I can't remember exactly how old she was when we got her, but she's I'm gonna estimate around 1.5-2 years. - It wasn't until the last few months that she's been having issues... always get our food from the same distributor, I dust with a multi-vitamin once a month, calcium without d3 four days a month, and calcium with d3 the rest of the time.

    I'll have to snag a picture of her enclosure when I get home, I don't have one on my phone currently, but she's in a 10gal, I'm not running any overhead bulbs, but she has one hide on the left of the tank where her heat mat is, and she has another hide on the other side with no heat, and a small plant suctioned to the side aswell, water bowl is in the middle.

    &Yeah, like I said we just moved so I'm still trying to find a new vet in the area that will examine this type of "exotic" so that is en process. I picked her up this morning & got her to eat a little bit of the powder food / water mix after I checked her mouth for anything weird, I'm gonna try to get her to eat a little bit more when I get home & I'll grab a picture of her setup.
    Your leos are GORGEOUS! How long is Fanta? Do you know how much she weighs? It will help if you could share a photo of her alone (without a hand).

    Please share exact brand names of the multivitamins, calcium with D3, and plain calcium you've been using just like Sg612 has requested.

    Please verify your thermostats' temps with a separate digital thermometer with a probe. From what you describe, the warm end temps may be too low to properly digest food.

    Here's what I recommend.

    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C):
    • 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) ground temperature right underneath a leo's warm dry hide
    • no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
    • no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. At night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).
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