Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 35
  1. #11
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Taiwan
    Posts
    14
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default


    LOG IN TO CLOSE THIS AD   


    >Temperature:
    Warm end (ground): 30.4C
    Warm end (air): 25C
    Cool end (ground&air): 21.5C

    ----------

    Ingredients of Komodo nutri-cal:
    >>Analytical constituents:
    Calcium 20.18%, Phosphorus 0.51%, Sodium 0.05%, Crude ash 65.45%.

    >>Composition:
    Calcium carbonate, dextrose, rice, dicalcium phosphate.

    >>Additives per kg:
    Vitamin A 750000IU
    Vitamin B1 15mg
    Vitamin B2 10mg
    Vitamin B6 10mg
    Vitamin B12 1mg
    Vitamin C 2500mg
    Vitamin D3 150000IU
    Vitamin E 750 mg
    Vitamin K 10 mg
    Biotin 10mg
    calcium pantothenate 20mg
    Folic acid 10mg
    Niacin 50mg

    >>Trace elements:
    Calcium iodate, Anhydrous 3.00mg.
    Organic selenium yeast 2173.00mg
    Copper sulphate pentahydrate 125.00mg
    Iron(II) sulfate hydrate 333.00mg
    Zinc Oxide 277mg
    Manganous solphate, Monohydrate 125.00mg.
    Last edited by Zeruel; 04-17-2019 at 03:33 PM. Reason: typo
    Thanks Elizabeth Freer thanked for this post
    Likes Elizabeth Freer liked this post

  2. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Taiwan
    Posts
    14
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Troy just had another poop like the one in the pictures, this time it seems even wetter.


    I just remembered that I had bought 10 crickets from a local aquarium store and fed them to my geckos about 3 or 4 weeks earlier. Normally I fed them only the dubia roaches I breed myself. This was the only one time I fed store-bought insects to my geckos in about half a year. I think Troy only ate 2 or 3 crickets, the rest went to the other 2 of my geckos.

    I did gutload the crickets with some vegetables and Repashy grub pie before feeding them to my geckos.


    Could it be that the crickets carried some sort of parasites?
    (But the other two geckos show no similar symptoms. )


    Also I forgot to mention earlier, that Troy has never laid eggs before. Don't know if this information helps or not.


    I'm getting kinda anxious now. I've booked a visit to the vet next Monday.
    Last edited by Zeruel; 04-18-2019 at 10:48 AM. Reason: grammar is hard ok

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Aug 2015
    Location
    Prague
    Posts
    325
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    "Could it be that the crickets carried some sort of parasites?
    (But the other two geckos shows no similar symptoms. )"

    Possible, but very unlikely. You probably didn't have to book a visit to a vet. Like I said, sending a poop sample would be enough (if your vet provides such a service). But it won't hurt Troy (just your wallet).
    Thanks Zeruel thanked for this post
    Likes Zeruel liked this post

  4. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    USA: Oregon
    Posts
    20,410
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeruel View Post
    >Temperature:
    Warm end (ground): 30.4C
    Warm end (air): 25C
    Cool end (ground&air): 21.5C

    ----------

    Ingredients of Komodo nutri-cal:
    >>Analytical constituents:
    Calcium 20.18%, Phosphorus 0.51%, Sodium 0.05%, Crude ash 65.45%.

    >>Composition:
    Calcium carbonate, dextrose, rice, dicalcium phosphate.

    >>Additives per kg:
    Vitamin A 750000IU
    Vitamin B1 15mg
    Vitamin B2 10mg
    Vitamin B6 10mg
    Vitamin B12 1mg
    Vitamin C 2500mg
    Vitamin D3 150000IU
    Vitamin E 750 mg
    Vitamin K 10 mg
    Biotin 10mg
    calcium pantothenate 20mg
    Folic acid 10mg
    Niacin 50mg

    >>Trace elements:
    Calcium iodate, Anhydrous 3.00mg.
    Organic selenium yeast 2173.00mg
    Copper sulphate pentahydrate 125.00mg
    Iron(II) sulfate hydrate 333.00mg
    Zinc Oxide 277mg
    Manganous solphate, Monohydrate 125.00mg.
    Your warm end ground temps could be warmer than 30.4*C. Warm end ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) underneath a leo's warm dry hide

    Can you increase those temperatures a little?

    I wonder what type of vitamin A is in Komodo Nutri-Cal. Choices are usually vitamin A acetate (retinol) or beta carotene. Sometimes manufacturers use both. Maybe Komodo has online customer service?
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-18-2019 at 08:51 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
    Thanks Zeruel thanked for this post
    Likes Zeruel liked this post

  5. #15
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    USA: Oregon
    Posts
    20,410
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)

    Default

    I did gutload the crickets with some vegetables and Repashy grub pie before feeding them to my geckos.
    I wonder whether there is some reason Troy could be drinking lots of water.

    How did you serve Grub Pie to the insects?
    1. Did you mix it with water so it can gel?
    2. Or did you feed it to the insects dry?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
    Thanks Zeruel thanked for this post
    Likes Zeruel liked this post

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Taiwan
    Posts
    14
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by IHaveNoIdea View Post
    "Could it be that the crickets carried some sort of parasites?
    (But the other two geckos shows no similar symptoms. )"

    Possible, but very unlikely. You probably didn't have to book a visit to a vet. Like I said, sending a poop sample would be enough (if your vet provides such a service). But it won't hurt Troy (just your wallet).
    I don't know if they provide such service, I'll make a call and ask them when they're opened.
    Any advice how to pack & preserve the stool sample? I've heard that the vet will not be able to detect parasites under microscope if the stool sample is dried.
    (But I'll probably still take Troy to them just because it makes me feel better, not having to wait for the delivery and stuffs.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Can you increase those temperatures a little?
    Ok I'll adjust the temperature.

    I wonder what type of vitamin A is in Komodo Nutri-Cal. Choices are usually vitamin A acetate (retinol) or beta carotene. Sometimes manufacturers use both. Maybe Komodo has online customer service?
    I can send them an email and ask them. But the thing is my geckos don't even like this calcium powder that much, I might as well just change to Repashy Calcium Plus if it's better?

    How did you serve Grub Pie to the insects?
    I made it into gel and cut the gel into cubes. I first serve the cubes to my geckos with a tweezer to see their reaction, if they don't want to eat them, I'll toss the cubes to my insect colonies.

  7. #17
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    USA: Oregon
    Posts
    20,410
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)

    Default

    You might return to Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins without D3. I like that better than Repashy's Calcium Plus multivitamins, especially because of the calcium carbonate it contains. Maybe we can find out more about your Komodo Nutri-Cal?

    Here's my link for collecting fecal samples:

    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
    Thanks Zeruel thanked for this post
    Likes Zeruel liked this post

  8. #18
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Taiwan
    Posts
    14
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    @Elizabeth Freer

    Thanks a lot for the tips of collecting stool sample, I put a petri dish in her container, and almost immediately received a puddle of goop that looks like scrambled egg soup... :0




    As for the Komodo Nutri-Cal supplement, there's a "contact us" feature in their website, perhaps I'll send a message and ask them about their ingredients when I have time?
    https://www.komodoproducts.com/contact-us
    Thanks Elizabeth Freer thanked for this post

  9. #19
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    USA: Oregon
    Posts
    20,410
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    70 Post(s)
    Tagged
    8 Thread(s)

    Default

    I sent Komodo "contact-us" a message regarding their vitamin A "supplement". Thanks for that link.

    I dust the roaches with vitamin+calcium powder once every 2 meals.
    Supplement Brand: I used to use Zoo med Reptivite but switched to Komodo Nutri-Cal recently.
    Troy is having some problem producing proper eggs. Reptivite (with or without D3) contains a little more plain calcium than Komodo Nutri-Cal does. Have you access to VetArk's Nutrobal multivitamin? Nutrobal is an ideal supplement in most respects.

    The proportion of feces & urates to urine (most of that wetness) is off. I see way more urine than is common. Sometimes if a gecko is getting too many multivitamins or other supplements, the gecko gets really thirsty and drinks alot.

    1. Has Troy ever laid fertile eggs?
    2. Is Troy getting just 2 meals per week?
    3. Are you dusting ALL the bugs and worms once every 2 meals (per week)?
    4. Are you heavily or lightly dusting those same bugs and worms?
      • Try this first: Dust ALL of the feeders lightly @ 1 of 2 meals per week.
      • If that doesn't work, then try this: How about adding plain calcium like Zoo Med's Repti Calcium without D3 to half the feeders at the second feeding per week?
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-18-2019 at 04:14 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
    Thanks Zeruel thanked for this post
    Likes Zeruel liked this post

  10. #20
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Posts
    403
    Post Thanks / Like
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default


    LOG IN TO CLOSE THIS AD   


    But I'll probably still take Troy to them just because it makes me feel better,

    That would be the right thing to do. A fecal sample provides very limited information. A physical exam by an experienced reptile vet can provide important information by:

    Auscultation of heart and lungs. Palpating of the abdomen for masses and constipation. Check eyes, ears, mouth nose, limbs, skin. Radiograph for bone density. Blood work for things like infection, calcium levels, liver function and so on.
    Thanks Zeruel thanked for this post
    Likes Elizabeth Freer, Zeruel liked this post

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

User Tag List

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •