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    Hello! I might be over-reacting as I have tendency to freak out sometimes over things that are not even that big of a deal... but I really want to have you guys opinion on this..
    So here's the deal:

    I'm a fairly new gecko owner, I got my gecko around 4 months ago from a pet store and on the day I got her, she was kind of small-ish already.
    She used to live on coco soil for a while but few days ago I changed her flooring into a repti-carpet.
    She is about 1 year old, a little older. She is (I assume) a bandit albino morph gecko.
    She eats on mealworms and I bought yesterday some crickets and she ate 4 of those today. I have fed her mealworms before and she has always eaten them pretty well.

    Last week I had this sudden change into my schedule and was away from home from Monday to Friday, and during this time my parents only changed the water once and when I came home the water bowl was empty (I did tell my parents straight words and making sure the water is always there)

    When I came back, I got very scared because she looked rather thin and her eyes looked a little sunken, and I immediately prepared mealworms and crickets for her to eat. Two days later her eyes look normal again, but I need your opinions here:

    Is her tail too thin to be concerned about and how is her overall look? She poops normally, although yesterday her pee was rather yellow. Help, freaking out here...

    Her terra is a 10-gallon one and her temps are warm side 35-39 celcius and 25 celcius on the cold side. She has a heat mat, three hides (cold, wetbox and a warm hide). She is active and shows either no signs of MBD (I dust her food with Nutrobal calcium + D3 and her insects are gutloaded with Repashy Bug Burger). Could it be because she basically fasted from Monday to Friday with sadly minimal water, will she be healthy after feeding her good? I have also put drops of water near her mouth and also one drop of olive oil in case she has eaten the coco soil.

    // edit she also has a basking spotlight, sadly not a UVA nor UVB one, but I give her supplements on that and she has not had a problem with her weight before this week...

    /// edit her usual feeding schedule has usually been 2-3 times a week, she has shed her skin successfully everytime, so she has had no problems with shedding either. She has a good appetite as well and has not refused to food during these two days (she has eaten 7 mealworms and 4 crickets) she also comes out of her hide during the night and doesn't seem to be tired but pretty active, she sleeps during the day very normally as well.

    //// edit the last picture (not on paper) is how she looked like when I first got her 4 months ago
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    she looks pretty healthy to me, maybe a tiny bit of a skimpy tail, I am not a gecko doctor though ( that is what you call them right? )

    oh wait, never mind its an exotic animal vet.

    ( sorry, just trying to be funny )

    how are you feeding her, a bowl? letting them free roam?
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    Oh good to hear that she looks okay! And I feed her by hand (so I take the mealworm or cricket with tweezers and let her go into hunting mode and she'll eat it like that) I have tried leaving mealworms (as crickets could run off from the bowl) but by far she hasn't eaten from the bowl but likes to only eat when I hand feed her. Thanks so much for the reply!
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    She looks great to me. She may have been a little dehydrated after not having water, but these guys are really hardy.
    A few comments on morph and husbandry:
    --For a gecko to be a bandit it needs to be confirmed that it came from bandit lines, so I don't think you can really say bandit
    --The temps are really hot! I'm F, not C, so I'll cite in F and you can convert. I think that low 90's on the floor of the hot side are best and in my opinion, on a day to day basis, 70's or below is fine for the cold side. I say day to day because I have no AC in my house so when my living room is in the 90's during a heat wave, so is the gecko enclosure. That doesn't happen often, though. If you don't have a thermostat for your heater, get one. In an enclosure as small as a 10 gallon, especially with the light (see below), it's easy to have the air be really hot and dehydrate the gecko, even with adequate water.
    --Since leopard geckos are nocturnal, unless they live in a room where there is no natural sunlight, they don't really need a light. Some people like to use one, which is fine, as long as the light isn't adding more heat (see above).

    Despite these comments, the gecko looks well taken care of. Enjoy her.

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    Ah thank you so much on the information! It was definitely just a guess, I don't know about her family line so I wont call her a bandit morph, the pet store owners only said that she was an albino of some sorts
    And ohh okay, I will this week change her heatlamp to a less heated lamp, I also have this infrared thermostat I point with and it tells me the temperature with that, I check the temps everyday. I also get natural light during the day but as winter is getting closer, the length of the day gets very short so a normal, non-heated light lamp should be alright Thank you much for all your comments!
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    Quote Originally Posted by delycat View Post
    Ah thank you so much on the information! It was definitely just a guess, I don't know about her family line so I wont call her a bandit morph, the pet store owners only said that she was an albino of some sorts
    And ohh okay, I will this week change her heatlamp to a less heated lamp, I also have this infrared thermostat I point with and it tells me the temperature with that, I check the temps everyday. I also get natural light during the day but as winter is getting closer, the length of the day gets very short so a normal, non-heated light lamp should be alright Thank you much for all your comments!
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited! Could you upgrade your leo's enclosure to a 20 long: 30 x 12.5 x 12.5 inches; 76.2 x 31.75 x 31.75 cm tall?

    1. Are the temperatures you mention air temps or ground temps?
    2. Are you lightly dusting with Nutrobal all-in-one multivitamins @ 1 time per week and then additionally dusting with a plain calcium carbonate supplement (Calci Dust ?) @ 1 time per week too?

    How about depending upon your heat mat as the heat source rather than a heat mat + an overhead bulb? Leos depend upon good belly heat to digest their prey. An ideal size heat mat = 1/2 the footprint of the ground.

    A thermostat is an electrical device that controls temps. Thermostats turn off the heat mat or overhead lamp when such reaches a preset temperature like 91*F (32.8*C). Leos depend upon ground temps for digestion. In order to get an ideal ground temp when using an overhead lamp, the air temperature will be much too hot.

    What you describe is a temp gun that reads temps.

    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C):
    • Warm end ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) inside a leo's warm dry hide and his moist hide too!
    • Cool end ground temperature: 70ish-75 F (21.1-23.9 C) Usually the cool end ground temperature matches the room temperature where the enclosure sits.
    • no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
    • no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. [I]If you wish, during the night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).[/I
    To provide a photo period I add a very low wattage incandescent bulb (15 watt) that's dimmed to half power by a rheostat (dimmer) in the center of the screen top. That bulb is additionally shaded from my leo by a tall silk palm tree (silk foliage).

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    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 08-18-2019 at 03:39 PM.
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    Your Leo is so pretty love the colors and markings.

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