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    Question Unexplainable weight gain and strange behaviour


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    Hi all, been a while since my last post.

    I'm having a bit of trouble with my female Leopard Gecko's (Waa) weight. About a month ago I noticed she was eating her normal amount of food but had stopped growing. After a bit of a closer look I noticed her tail had not grown much at all, but her stomach area was growing. At time or writing she is 88g, and looks it.

    I was told she was 3 months old at time of purchase (Feb 2019), but I suspect she might be a lot older than that. She is an adult weight and length, and with the aforementioned info I can only assume they either got it wrong or wilfully lied. Not a problem, she is an absolute sweetheart and I wouldn't change a thing about her.

    I changed her feeding schedule to be every 4 days instead of every 2 (as I would feed a sub adult and 3 for an adult) and reduced the amount of insects I was offering to try and encourage some weight loss. It has not worked. Over December she gained around 9g. I don't want her to become critically obese. Has anyone else had a similar problem? Am I using an incorrect dieting technique?

    To answer the incoming questions, she is otherwise perfectly healthy. She is in a 3ft enclosure with all other parameters normal, with about as many hides as you could possibly have on all temperature gradients, and including a moist hide. She defecates, albeit infrequently, by which I mean 7usually only for 2 days after she eats and sometimes it's 2 faecal clumps in one go. She has healthy sized urates and has a tightly monitored supplement schedule after she developed the bubbles under the armpits thing (gone now). Her heat is provided by a deep heat projector onto a thin sheet of slate which heats everything up nicely, and she frequently basks. She is provided with UVB. Her insects are gut loaded. Bla bla bla... you get the idea, this isn't an amateur thing, I research everything critically and control everything tightly. Except for doubting a pet shops background info on a reptile clearly. She is a sunglow morph I believe, possibly with something else thrown into the mix.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Secondary unrelated question: as I was writing this I had her perched on my shoulder, as usual. She started to move down my back towards my pillows (again normal). Then suddenly froze. She then jumped off my back and bolted. To stop her from leaping into a very inconvenient gap (will have to cover) I had to grab her quite quickly. At which point she flailed in my hand, twisted and bit me hard enough to draw blood. I pulled her in towards my chest and she dove into my lap and underneath my crossed legs. She wedged herself into me and then stayed motionless. I gave her a couple of minutes, finished typing this and then picked her up. She was still very tense but handleable once again. I put her back in her viv.
    Before this she was not showing any signs of stress and has never done this before. She has never even nipped me before. She's a docile, "cuddly" gecko. Anybody had this behaviour before? Was she just really spooked by something and it went to those extremes? I'm just thankful she didn't drop her tail when I grabbed her!

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    Quick update, opened her viv up after about 10 mins, touched her back and she turned around and was begging to climb onto my hand
    Shut the door of the viv and she walks up to her usual exit spot, stares at me and starts tapping the glass like she usually does when she wants out. What on earth was that all about?!

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    Shes probably just ovulating, or gravis if you keep her in a tank with a male. Or maybe she could have just went from a sub adult to adult, my babys usually have large weigh gains after switching to juvenile

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    Quote Originally Posted by MackSnowBreeder View Post
    Shes probably just ovulating, or gravis if you keep her in a tank with a male. Or maybe she could have just went from a sub adult to adult, my babys usually have large weigh gains after switching to juvenile
    Hi MackSnowBreeder

    I don't think she is ovulating at this time of year, and she is not showing any other signs of ovulation. She is also housed solo (I never cohab) and is currently my only Leo. Could be the adult switch, she just looks massive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dackall View Post
    Hi MackSnowBreeder

    I don't think she is ovulating at this time of year, and she is not showing any other signs of ovulation. She is also housed solo (I never cohab) and is currently my only Leo. Could be the adult switch, she just looks massive!
    Please share a full length picture and her total length.
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    I had a girl get plump like that then she layed 2 massive eggs.. She wasnt even a year old an had never been paired.
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    I have had a lot of leopard geckos. Some seem to have a body type with giant belly or tail. If you're already cutting down on feeding and she's not on a substrate that she can ingest, then I don't know that there's any more you can do. I don't know why she got so freaked out while she was sitting on you. If she was upset for some unknown reason, it doesn't surprise me that she bit you; it's happened to me often. I guess that sometimes something in the environment can signal danger to that little reptile brain and it has nothing to do with her experience of life, it's just instinct.

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    my wife was laying down an i put one of our girls on the bed an she started crawling on to my wife who was under the blanket an when my wife sat up it did spook her an she did some tail wagging but i talked to her an put my hand down in front of her an let her walk on to it. i guess what im saying is they do get spooked some times an its probably nothing you did wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Please share a full length picture and her total length.
    Hi again Elizabeth!

    I'll try and get a full picture of her tonight, as she wasn't being very cooperative last night, but she is around 8 and a half inches from nose to tail tip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geopard Lecko View Post
    I had a girl get plump like that then she layed 2 massive eggs.. She wasnt even a year old an had never been paired.
    She went into breeding mode early this year, April through July, when she would only have been 5 months old, part of the reason I doubt she is actually less than 18 months. I have checked her for eggs but couldn't see or feel any, and she's not digging or looking for places to lay her eggs.

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