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    Don't put him on sand. Keep offering. Day 9 with no eating for a new gecko isn't that unusual. Good luck.

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    Hi, you've also replied to another thread of mine, which is about the slit on my geckos tail, where you mention, that the real question is, why he's not eating. Yesterday he ate 1 cricket from the bowl (thankfully after I noticed the slit, so it gives me some hope) so naturally I got excited and got 6 more and clipped of their jumping legs, as per some other thread I've seen on the site. Today I woke up and noticed none of them were gone and I'm back at the start. Im keeping 6 crickets together with 6 mealworms in the bowl at all times now so he can hopefully go and eat whenever he decides to. Is it a good idea or should I remove them? The crickets are small and don't chirp at all and they cannot escape the dish.

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    I think he might have hurt his tail when he 'jumped' out of my hand. He wasn't really hight but I saw that it can hurt them in this way. There is nothing sharp in his enclosure so that's the best explanation I got. I'm really sad it happaned to him, I saw leos on Goherping's channel jumping from his hands down on the floor and nothing happaned, and mine jumped onto his bowl and soft substrate from literally no more than 3cm and this happaned. He's just sitting in his warm hide now and I cannot put in paper towels/tiles atm, hopefully he gets out soon so I can spray down the wound and cover the hide and enclosure. As I mentioned on another thread, I keep feeders with him the whole time now in hopes he will eventually eat - they are contained inside a ceramic bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotpeon View Post
    It seems it went ok. I still have some trouble checking on all of his toes, because he still only hides and he's gotten really fast since shedding, but the ones I could see, were ok.

    Thanks for the advice on lighting, I've got quite a big enclosure so I will get Zoo Med Reptisun bulb, since I cannot get Arcadia in my country. I was looking for UVA source since there are lots of contradictory opinions and lightning all over the internet and in majority of them I saw, that leopard geckos don't really require UVB, since they don't expose themselves to the sun and I supplement D3. I also saw, that it is possible to keep them without either, but I really want to install it, since I saw that it makes them more active and happier.
    You're welcome. Your leo is cute! Please continue on this thread.

    1. Are you using an analog (circle), digital, or infrared thermometer?
    2. You have said the temps are "spot on". There is a range of temps suggested on the internet. I would like to know what "spot on" = to you.
    3. What are the dimensions of your leo's enclosure: length x width x height?
    4. Which Zoo Med Reptisun bulb or fluorescent tube are you thinking about buying? Each UVB source is only effective on a certain size enclosure. It all has to do with Ferguson Zones.
    5. ***** Which supplements are you using: brand, name, & frequency?
    6. When your leo is using UVB rays, it is recommended by lighting experts to also dust with a backup D3 dusting @ 1 feeding per month.
    7. One photo you posted on this thread shows a yellow leopard gecko that's got ample weight on his body. Maybe the reason "he's" not eating right now is because he is full???
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-10-2020 at 05:39 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotpeon View Post
    I think he might have hurt his tail when he 'jumped' out of my hand. He wasn't really hight but I saw that it can hurt them in this way. There is nothing sharp in his enclosure so that's the best explanation I got. I'm really sad it happaned to him, I saw leos on Goherping's channel jumping from his hands down on the floor and nothing happaned, and mine jumped onto his bowl and soft substrate from literally no more than 3cm and this happaned. He's just sitting in his warm hide now and I cannot put in paper towels/tiles atm, hopefully he gets out soon so I can spray down the wound and cover the hide and enclosure. As I mentioned on another thread, I keep feeders with him the whole time now in hopes he will eventually eat - they are contained inside a ceramic bowl.
    What is your leo's name?

    Please keep your leo's tail wound DRY, not moist. A dry wound heals faster and is less susceptible to infection.

    Please replace the current substrate with paper towels or textured ceramic tile until his tail wound has totally healed.

    A paper towel or ceramic tile substrate will keep stray substrate particles from infecting his tail wound. Toilet paper shreds too easily.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-10-2020 at 06:35 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Hello! Thanks, he's a cutie all right

    1. I am using digital thermometer, I am still waiting on a laser one
    2. So I just re-checked the temperatures yesterday and they are as follows:
    Warm hide: 30-33C controlled with thermostat
    Humid hide: I've moved it to the warm side (it covers around 80% of it now) and the temperatures reach around 31C
    Cold hide: Around 22C, controlled by house thermostat and it stays like this throughout the year and I would say the air temperature is also similar, except above the UTH.
    3. Dimensions are 100cmx40cmx50cm, so around 50 gallons
    4. I am thinking of buying ZooMed ReptiSun 5.0 Compact UVB 26W, I just wonder if the gecko will come out more when I place it so he can benefit from it, since his hide doesn't get much light
    5. I am using Reptiplanet Calcium with D3 and Multivitamin from the same brand, it's hard to get Repashy or other supplements atm since most of the stores in my country don't stock them and the shipments are delayed due to current situation, I am planing to use calcium for 2 consecutive feedings and then multivitamin on 3rd, should i switch to calcium without D3 after I get the bulb?
    7. I am not sure how full he is, usually I see those plump tails and from the pics I can see that the geckos are full, maybe mine is just a bit too young to have that exact plumpness, he's only eaten 1 cricket yesterday in 11 days I've had him

    He's really friendly and doesn't seem to be bothered by me, today I was checking on him in the morning and he actually came out to the glass and started licking the places where i'd put my fingers and it was super cute I just hope he starts eating soon so I can relax a bit since we're both stressed at the moment it seems.

    Hopefully everything is in order, I've also had a scare with a slit on his tail and I've seen that you replied on that thread too but I've been checking on him and it doesn't seem like the slit is there, maybe it was his pre-anal pores or something, I'll post an update on that thread when I'm sure.

    Thanks for the replies and the help!
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    3. Dimensions are 100cmx40cmx50cm, so around 50 gallons
    4. I am thinking of buying ZooMed ReptiSun 5.0 Compact UVB 26W, I just wonder if the gecko will come out more when I place it so he can benefit from it, since his hide doesn't get much light
    5. I am using Reptiplanet Calcium with D3 and Multivitamin from the same brand, it's hard to get Repashy or other supplements atm since most of the stores in my country don't stock them and the shipments are delayed due to current situation, I am planing to use calcium for 2 consecutive feedings and then multivitamin on 3rd, should i switch to calcium without D3 after I get the bulb?

    7. I am not sure how full he is, usually I see those plump tails and from the pics I can see that the geckos are full, maybe mine is just a bit too young to have that exact plumpness, he's only eaten 1 cricket yesterday in 11 days I've had him
    I'm sorry. I keep experiencing incredibly long scrolling times or getting logged off.

    3. Dimensions: What a lucky leo you have to have such a huge enclosure!
    Length = 39 & 3/8 inches (100 cm)
    Width = 15 & 3/4 inches (40 cm)
    Height = 19 & 11/16 inches (50 cm)

    4. Zoo Med's ReptiSun 5.0 compact is definitely too small. How about posting this question on facebook's Reptile Lighting group? Specifically tag Dr. Fran Baines (admin) on your thread. She's a top-notch expert in this field.

    Fran may even recommend the T8 ReptiSun 10.0 fluorescent tube in a 12 inch or an 18 inch fixture, because of the 50 cm height. Those fixtures hug the screen top. This UVB tube will provide adequate light. I don't know how T5 fluorescent tubes compare with T8s.|

    Let us know what she says.

    5. Please link both Reptiplanet Calcium with D3 and Multivitamin in English.

    7. 1 cricket is a beginning.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-10-2020 at 10:22 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    3. I sure hope so! He sure seems to enjoy exploring it as I always find him in some other spot in the night

    4. Ok, I will have a look into that. I also have a fixture for tube somewhere I think and I found a dealer with ReptiSun tube. The gecko has enough light, there is a window in the room so he can easily differ day and night time, so I thought about getting Arcadia DHP to cover his hide and rocky areas but unfortunately, I cannot find a dealership that has them locally or ships them to my country

    5. Best I can do is link ingredients, translated from the main page. I've asked about them on a local FB forum and they seem to work well with a range of different reptiles.
    Calcium + D3: Ingredients: Calcium carbonate, vitamin D3 25,000 iu / kg.
    Multivitamin: Ingredients: calcium carbonate, vitamin D3, vitamin and mineral supplements.
    Nutritional supplements: Vitamin D3 25,000 iu / kg. It also contains vitamins A, C, E, B1, B2, B6, B12, nicotinic and pantothenic acid, folic acid, Biotin, Choline chloride, minerals: Fe, Co, Mn, Cu, Zn, I, Se.
    I recently saw that leos can potentially overdose with D3, so I will also order pure calcium powder, as both of those contain D3 and I wasn't aware of that potential danger.

    7. Fingers crossed

    P.S.

    If he's not eating soon, I'm also considering getting Repti Planet Insectivore Diet, it's similar to Repashy Grub Pie and I've seen it's quite unresistable to some reptiles Here are the ingredients:
    Supplementary feed for reptiles. Pro-biotic gel designed for insectivorous reptile species such as leopard gecko, bearded agama, lizard and other lizards. Provides a balanced level of protein, oil and fiber. Ideal addition for carnivores and omnivores. Suitable for all phases of life.

    Feeding instructions: Mix 1 part powder with 2 parts boiling water, mix, allow to cool and shape appropriate pieces of food as needed. Add or remove water for best consistency. Always supply fresh drinking water. After opening, store in a cool, dry place. The expiry date is stated on the packaging.

    Ingredients: Hermetia illucens larvae, rice flour, potato proteins, flour worms, calcium carbonate, potatoes, sweet potatoes, shrimp, rubber, bananas, apple, flaxseed, coconut milk, cream, hibiscus, alfalfa, honey, bee pollen, vitamin Premix, Spirulina, Pro-Biotika, extract from romarine.

    Nutritional supplements: vitamin A 20 000 IU / kg, vitamin D3 2000 IU / kg, vitamins B1, B2, B6, B12, vitamin C, vitamin K, vitamin E, folic acid, Biotin, Choline chloride, nicotinic acid, pantothenic acid, amino acids.

    Increased palatability: beer yeast (4B1710) 12 500 000 000 cfu / kg.

    Analytical constituents: Crude protein 33%, Crude oils and fats 10%, Crude fiber 9%, Crude ash 6%.

    And of course I mean to do it only temporarily, so he can regain his strength, I do try to feed crickets and mealworms atm, but as soon as I can, I will try to get my gecko to eat dubia roaches.
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    Hotpeon, I've merged your 3 threads into one, since it's all about the same gecko, and most likely related problems. It's easier to help if everything is in one thread.
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    4. Ok, I will have a look into that. I also have a fixture for tube somewhere I think and I found a dealer with ReptiSun tube. The gecko has enough light, there is a window in the room so he can easily differ day and night time, so I thought about getting Arcadia DHP to cover his hide and rocky areas but unfortunately, I cannot find a dealership that has them locally or ships them to my country

    5. Best I can do is link ingredients, translated from the main page. I've asked about them on a local FB forum and they seem to work well with a range of different reptiles.
    Calcium + D3: Ingredients: Calcium carbonate, vitamin D3 25,000 iu / kg.
    Multivitamin: Ingredients: calcium carbonate, vitamin D3, vitamin and mineral supplements.
    Nutritional supplements: Vitamin D3 25,000 iu / kg. It also contains vitamins A, C, E, B1, B2, B6, B12, nicotinic and pantothenic acid, folic acid, Biotin, Choline chloride, minerals: Fe, Co, Mn, Cu, Zn, I, Se.

    I recently saw that leos can potentially overdose with D3, so I will also order pure calcium powder, as both of those contain D3 and I wasn't aware of that potential danger.
    Thanks for sharing and translating all that information!!!

    4. How long is the fixture you have for a T8 (?) tube? I highly recommend Fran Baines (Reptile Lighting) for advice about the strength and type UVB your large enclosure requires.

    I use Zoo Med's ReptiSun 5.0 UVB T8 tubes for a different genus of gecko. Those tubes need replacing every year. I have mine on about 12 hours per day.

    5. Once your leo is reliably absorbing UVB, you'll need multivitamins withOUT D3 along with plain calcium.


    8. How old is your leo? If you don't know, then how long is he from snout to tail tip? If he is sexable, then he's at least 5 months old.

    Weekly Schedule 124 for Leopard Geckos 0-12 months old
    (withOUT UVB)
    adapted for your leo
    Early stage metabolic bone disease (MBD) symptoms include uneven (lopsided) gait, walking on one or both "elbows", bowed limbs, belly dragging, and an underbite.
    Feed lightly dusted prey 3x per week.

    • Monday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Reptiplanet multivitamins with D3
    • Tuesday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Wednesday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with pure precipitated calcium carbonate -- no D3
    • Thursday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Friday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with pure precipitated calcium carbonate -- no D3
    • Saturday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Sunday > > no food or free choice > > no dusting
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-11-2020 at 08:25 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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