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    So i recently acquired two leopard geckos. The person wasnt able to take care of them anymore. One is super healthy and no issues. The other is super skinny and shedding constantly with her eyes extremely messed up. Any help before i take her to the vet asap. Just wanting to know what it is.117394788_612299329428493_6295100642814798370_n.jpg

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    Welcome aboard!

    Please share a full-body picture of this female. How does the inside of her mouth look too?

    Were these leos housed together? Do you know which supplements, brand name, and frequency the former owner used.

    Please make an appointment to have the female's eyes treated immediately! She could have a severe eye infection.

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 08-09-2020 at 12:30 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    The only supplements i know was calcium(flukers). They were(are) housed together. She had stuck shed im assuming in her mouth.Which i helped get out.117284135_3223276524424457_7282958855579048257_n.jpg
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    Since these leos were housed together, maybe the healthy one was eating most the food? It is necessary to house each separately.

    Once you removed the "stuck shed", does her mouth look healthy? Are there any signs of mouth rot (infectious stomatitis)?

    For link 81 (& 87) click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet (abbreviated) -- August 2020 update (show handout)

    1. Fluker's calcium with or without vitamin D3? Do you have that now?
    2. Please share separate minute-long videos of each leo walking around on some solid surface like a floor or carpeted floor. This can rule out MBD.
    3. What size enclosure are they in?
    4. I highly recommend 20 longs (30 x 12 x 12 inches high) for both leos. PetCo often has $1-per-gallon sales on these.
    5. Do you know their sexes?
    6. Do you know their ages?


    If young and not healthy, I would probably recommend Schedule 124. If younger and alright, I recommend Schedule 125 or 126.

    Weekly Schedule 124 for Leopard Geckos 0-12 months old
    (withOUT UVB)
    Early stage metabolic bone disease (MBD) symptoms include uneven (lopsided) gait, walking on one or both "elbows", bowed limbs, belly dragging, and an underbite.
    The Reptile Supply Company based in Lodi, California stocks Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins withOUT D3.
    Feed lightly dusted prey 3x per week.

    • Monday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    • Tuesday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Wednesday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with pure precipitated calcium carbonate withOUT D3 (Zoo Med's Repti Calcium or NOW human brand calcium)
    • Thursday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Friday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins withOUT D3
    • Saturday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) > > no dusting
    • Sunday > > no food or free choice > > no dusting

    Weekly Schedule 125 for leopard geckos 12-18 months old
    (withOUT UVB)
    Early stage metabolic bone disease (MBD) symptoms include uneven (lopsided) gait, walking on one or both "elbows", bowed limbs, belly dragging, and an underbite.
    The Reptile Supply Company based in Lodi, California stocks Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins withOUT D3.
    Powdered supplement recommendations for leopard geckos 12-18 months old depend upon how much your leo has grown thus far and whether he/she is walking strongly. Leopard geckos usually reach maximum size at about 18 months old.

    Feed lightly dusted prey 3x per week.

    • Monday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    • Wednesday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with pure precipitated calcium carbonate withOUT D3 (Zoo Med's Repti Calcium or NOW human brand calcium)
    • Friday > > crickets or dubia lightly dusted with Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins withOUT D3
    • Saturday > > mealworms, superworms, or black soldier fly larvae (Phoenix worms) >> no dusting
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 08-09-2020 at 08:02 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Around the mouth was slightly red. Doesn't look too bad when she opens her mouth to use her tongue.
    1. It was without D3. I do have it. I also purchased Zoo meds reptivite.
    2. Ill have to get her to move around and post in a bit.
    3. They were in a 55gallon tank. I ended up purchasing a 20gallon tank.http://https://www.petsmart.com/rept...lon-15025.html
    Using papertowls instead of the sand.
    5. I was told they were both females.
    6. The estimate on age has to be around 13 years old.


    I also haven't seen her eat. Ive been trying to find food that she will take to. Was thinking maybe her mouth is sore from the stuck shed in it. I'm currently looking at "ROACKIE Dubia Roaches Entree" to see if maybe that will be easier on her. The game plan is to talk to the vet tomorrow and see if they have a reptile specialist or know of one.

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    Around the mouth was slightly red. Doesn't look too bad when she opens her mouth to use her tongue.
    1. It was without D3. I do have it. I also purchased Zoo meds reptivite.
    2. Ill have to get her to move around and post in a bit.
    3. They were in a 55gallon tank. I ended up purchasing a 20gallon tank.http://https://www.petsmart.com/rept...lon-15025.html
    Using papertowls instead of the sand.
    5. I was told they were both females.
    6. The estimate on age has to be around 13 years old.


    I also haven't seen her eat. Ive been trying to find food that she will take to. Was thinking maybe her mouth is sore from the stuck shed in it. I'm currently looking at "ROACKIE Dubia Roaches Entree" to see if maybe that will be easier on her. The game plan is to talk to the vet tomorrow and see if they have a reptile specialist or know of one.

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    Around the mouth was slightly red. Doesn't look too bad when she opens her mouth to use her tongue.
    1. It was without D3. I do have it. I also purchased Zoo meds reptivite.
    2. Ill have to get her to move around and post in a bit.
    3. They were in a 55gallon tank. I ended up purchasing a 20gallon tank.http://https://www.petsmart.com/rept...lon-15025.html
    Using papertowls instead of the sand.
    5. I was told they were both females.
    6. The estimate on age has to be around 13 years old.


    I also haven't seen her eat. Ive been trying to find food that she will take to. Was thinking maybe her mouth is sore from the stuck shed in it. I'm currently looking at "ROACKIE Dubia Roaches Entree" to see if maybe that will be easier on her. The game plan is to talk to the vet tomorrow and see if they have a reptile specialist or know of one.

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    Around the mouth was slightly red. Doesn't look too bad when she opens her mouth to use her tongue.
    1. It was without D3. I do have it. I also purchased Zoo meds reptivite.
    2. Ill have to get her to move around and post in a bit.
    3. They were in a 55gallon tank. I ended up purchasing a 20gallon tank.http://https://www.petsmart.com/rept...lon-15025.html
    Using papertowls instead of the sand.
    5. I was told they were both females.
    6. The estimate on age has to be around 13 years old.


    I also haven't seen her eat. Ive been trying to find food that she will take to. Was thinking maybe her mouth is sore from the stuck shed in it. I'm currently looking at "ROACKIE Dubia Roaches Entree" to see if maybe that will be easier on her. The game plan is to talk to the vet tomorrow and see if they have a reptile specialist or know of one.



    Update: as of 10mins ago she ate 4 mealworms

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    As as of 10mins ago i got her to eat 4 mealworms.


    Around the mouth was slightly red. Doesn't look too bad when she opens her mouth to use her tongue.
    1. It was without D3. I do have it. I also purchased Zoo meds reptivite.
    2. Ill have to get her to move around and post in a bit.
    3. They were in a 55gallon tank. I ended up purchasing a 20gallon tank.http://https://www.petsmart.com/rept...lon-15025.html
    Using papertowls instead of the sand.
    5. I was told they were both females.
    6. The estimate on age has to be around 13 years old.


    I also haven't seen her eat. Ive been trying to find food that she will take to. Was thinking maybe her mouth is sore from the stuck shed in it. I'm currently looking at "ROACKIE Dubia Roaches Entree" to see if maybe that will be easier on her. The game plan is to talk to the vet tomorrow and see if they have a reptile specialist or know of one.

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    Just so we have the info on this thread, I'll share your PM here.

    Gecko eye issues
    Ive been trying to post this on the topic i posted, But it isnt going through. So i figured maybe a dm would go through hopefully. As as of 10mins ago i got her to eat 4 mealworms.


    Around the mouth was slightly red. Doesn't look too bad when she opens her mouth to use her tongue.
    1. It was without D3. I do have it. I also purchased Zoo meds reptivite.
    2. Ill have to get her to move around and post in a bit.
    3. They were in a 55gallon tank. I ended up purchasing a 20gallon tank.http://https://www.petsmart.com/rept...lon-15025.html
    Using papertowls instead of the sand.
    5. I was told they were both females.
    6. The estimate on age has to be around 13 years old.


    I also haven't seen her eat. Ive been trying to find food that she will take to. Was thinking maybe her mouth is sore from the stuck shed in it. I'm currently looking at "ROACKIE Dubia Roaches Entree" to see if maybe that will be easier on her. The game plan is to talk to the vet tomorrow and see if they have a reptile specialist or know of one.
    The most important thing to treat is her eye condition! She could become blind.

    Mealworms are OK.
    Aliza (GU's acpart) uses this already ground dry diet from "Professional Reptiles" for her insect and worm food as well as for her mealworm/superworm bedding.

    Did you buy a 20 long: 30 x 12 x 12 inches tall? If not, please exchange it for one. The 20 regular is significantly taller. A 20 gallon regular will be more difficult to adequately heat with a heat mat. You'll need at least an 11 x 11 inch (or a 11 x 17 inch) heat mat for a 20 long. I recommend Ultratherm brand heat mats. They are reusable.

    The skinny female's size could result from bullying. She requires separate housing.
    1. What are you feeding the mealworms?
    2. Do you now have Zoo Med Reptivite multivitamins with or without D3?
    3. Which calcium with D3 do you have?
    4. Do you also have plain calcium as in Zoo Med's Repti Calcium without D3?
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 08-09-2020 at 08:12 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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