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    Hello from New Hampshire, USA!

    My name is Ramona. I'm the human caretaker to Nina, a sweet little nine year old orange and white kitty and seven leopard geckos...

    Zoot and Zealey, both females and both were given to me by people who didn't have time for them
    Turbo, a male, who I adopted probably just in the nick of time.
    Moose (my first one, who I got in December) and he isn't even a year old yet.
    Moo (Moose's sister) who is almost a year old.
    Spice (I think somehow related to the other two) less than a year old.
    Sugar (male, adopted, and he's super friendly!)

    I love all of my critters and Nina is very sweet and gentle with the geckos.

    I look forward to reading more on these forums!

    Ramona

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    A warm welcome to you, Ramona! Good to have you on board.

    It sounds like you are very busy with all your leos already!
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Thanks, Elizabeth!

    My sweet Moo just laid a pair of eggs last night.

    It was not an intentional mating, as she is not quite a year old yet and still kind of on the smaller side.

    There was a scuffle with Moo and Spice who were tank mates and Spice was very badly hurting her so I quickly separated them and put her in the nearest tank, which happened to be Sugar's. In less than the ten minutes it took me to set up another enclosure, the deed was done.

    She ate six mealworms this afternoon, which I am so glad about because I know how important it is for her to eat during this time.

    Are there any other things I can feed her that will help her gain/maintain a healthy enough weight? Should I give her any extra vitamins during this time?

    Also, the box I put the eggs in has a lot of condensation inside it. I don't want the eggs to be too wet. I'm not even sure if they are fertile, but if they are, I want the most ideal conditions for them.

    Do you have any advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraveOne79 View Post
    Thanks, Elizabeth!

    My sweet Moo just laid a pair of eggs last night.

    It was not an intentional mating, as she is not quite a year old yet and still kind of on the smaller side.

    There was a scuffle with Moo and Spice who were tank mates and Spice was very badly hurting her so I quickly separated them and put her in the nearest tank, which happened to be Sugar's. In less than the ten minutes it took me to set up another enclosure, the deed was done.

    She ate six mealworms this afternoon, which I am so glad about because I know how important it is for her to eat during this time.

    Are there any other things I can feed her that will help her gain/maintain a healthy enough weight? Should I give her any extra vitamins during this time?

    Also, the box I put the eggs in has a lot of condensation inside it. I don't want the eggs to be too wet. I'm not even sure if they are fertile, but if they are, I want the most ideal conditions for them.

    Do you have any advice?
    You're welcome.

    I haven't bred all that many geckos and my female leo only once. I go by a rule of thumb that females should be about 18 mo prior to mating. Otherwise mating is hard on a female. Hopefully Aliza (@acpart) can stop by and share her experience.

    What injuries did Moo receive? I'm glad you were right there to remove her from that bad situation. Then Moo and Sugar mated?

    Crickets and dubia roaches are healthier than mealworms. Dubia are easy to breed!

    What brand and type of supplements have you now? Give the feeders the best diet you can! This is what I recommend.

    Feed finely ground Zoo Med's Natural Adult Bearded Dragon Food (or an equivalent high quality dry diet) 24/7 to the insects and worms to cover the basics. Add high calcium, low phosphorus veggies like collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, and pesticide-free dandelion flowers/greens in a dish off to the side for extra calcium and for moisture! Vary your leopard gecko's diet. Crickets, Blaptica dubia, hornworms, Phoenix worms, and silkworms are all good.

    Nutritional Comparisons of Insects & Worms
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 05-25-2017 at 08:56 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    You're welcome.

    I haven't bred all that many geckos and my female leo only once. I go by a rule of thumb that females should be about 18 mo prior to mating. Otherwise mating is hard on a female. Hopefully Aliza (@acpart) can stop by and share her experience.

    What injuries did Moo receive? I'm glad you were right there to remove her from that bad situation. Then Moo and Sugar mated?

    Crickets and dubia roaches are healthier than mealworms. Dubia are easy to breed!

    What brand and type of supplements have you now? Give the feeders the best diet you can! This is what I recommend.

    Feed finely ground Zoo Med's Natural Adult Bearded Dragon Food (or an equivalent high quality dry diet) 24/7 to the insects and worms to cover the basics. Add high calcium, low phosphorus veggies like collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, and pesticide-free dandelion flowers/greens in a dish off to the side for extra calcium and for moisture! Vary your leopard gecko's diet. Crickets, Blaptica dubia, hornworms, Phoenix worms, and silkworms are all good.

    Nutritional Comparisons of Insects & Worms
    The last place I bought crickets from, almost all the crickets died within four days. Some friends of mine bought crickets from the same place and they are now dealing with mites in all of their enclosures. Yuck.

    I feed my mealies a mix of oatmeal, wheat bran, and corn meal. I dust with Flukers and Repti Cal calcium and D3 because that's what I've had available to me.

    The neatest place to get live food is an hour away, and they only carry mealies, supers, and crickets (which apparently have mites)...

    I'll be picking up some wax worms and roaches this weekend at a bigger pet store.

    How do you breed the roaches? I've tried breeding crickets, to no avail. How many roaches should I have to start with if I want some as feeders and some as breeders?

    What else should I pick up for my geckos this weekend at the bigger pet store, which I think would carry much more than the one "close" to me...

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    Oh, and aside from a bitten foot, I don't think Moo sustained any other injuries. I checked her over good that evening and kept a very close eye on her. She's such a sweet girl.

    Spice is wild and crazy and I don't know how to calm him down... Do you have any advice?...

    All my others are mellow and don't mind being handled...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraveOne79 View Post
    Oh, and aside from a bitten foot, I don't think Moo sustained any other injuries. I checked her over good that evening and kept a very close eye on her. She's such a sweet girl.

    Spice is wild and crazy and I don't know how to calm him down... Do you have any advice?...

    All my others are mellow and don't mind being handled...
    Perhaps Spice will mellow as he ages. Was he ever abused?

    PS:
    I noticed yesterday that Aliza already has posted on a separate thread you posted May 23rd. Hope that is good.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 05-25-2017 at 07:53 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraveOne79 View Post
    The last place I bought crickets from, almost all the crickets died within four days. Some friends of mine bought crickets from the same place and they are now dealing with mites in all of their enclosures. Yuck.

    I feed my mealies a mix of oatmeal, wheat bran, and corn meal. I dust with Flukers and Repti Cal calcium and D3 because that's what I've had available to me.

    The neatest place to get live food is an hour away, and they only carry mealies, supers, and crickets (which apparently have mites)...

    I'll be picking up some wax worms and roaches this weekend at a bigger pet store.

    How do you breed the roaches? I've tried breeding crickets, to no avail. How many roaches should I have to start with if I want some as feeders and some as breeders?

    What else should I pick up for my geckos this weekend at the bigger pet store, which I think would carry much more than the one "close" to me...
    What a bummer about those crickets!

    Because of the high phosphorus content of wheat bran and oatmeal I never use those for my mealworm bedding. Instead I use Albers' All Purpose Poultry Feed or Zoo Med's Natural Adult Bearded Dragon Food. Both have some phosphorus, but NOT excessive amounts like wheat bran.

    "Phosphorus is necessary to herps as a component of bones, but too much phosphorus impairs calcium absorption. . . . . ."Generally, equal amounts of soluble calcium and phosphorus ions are required for balance; ideally, the ratio of calcium to phosphorus should be 2:1. Too much calcium results in a phosphorus deficiency and impaired metabolic function. Too much phosphorus in the diet forms insoluble calcium phosphate which renders the calcium unusable; as the body continues to absorb the phosphorus, hypocalcemiametabolic bone disease—results."

    A lot of veggies contain phosphorus so you have to feed a carefully balanced diet to iguanas and other herbivores. Additionally, most feeder insects have a poor Ca:Ph ratio, so you dust with Ca only to increase that side of the ratio."
    I'd feed crickets, dubia, and mealworms. I'd skip waxworms. Maybe you can buy a couple small hornworms for a treat. They are quite nutritious! Keep hornworms like this: Hornworm Guidelines

    Consider getting Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 and Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins without D3. Rep Cal's calcium with D3 contains 38x more D3 than does Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3. That's overkill and could be harmful.

    Scroll to the posts that follow for Kyle's Self Cleaning Roach Bin. Click: Care & Breeding of Feeders: crickets, Blaptica dubia, hornworms, & silkworms
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    #98---United States Department of Agriculture: Foods List

    We wish to approximate a 1.5-2.0 calcium : 1.0 phosphorus ratio with the insects and worms we feed our geckos.

    With the exception of Phoenix worms (BSFL) all the bugs and worms we feed our geckos are much higher in phosphorus than calcium. Feeding high phosphorus foods to the bugs/worms makes correcting that imbalance impossible. Phosphorus interferes with the absorption of calcium. That's why supplements containing a very low amount of phosphorus as well as a very low phosphorus content in their diet is important

    We lightly dust bugs and worms to correct this imbalance. Dusting should not be the "whole" story. That's why it's best to feed bugs and worms the best dry diet possible 24/7 plus adding low phosphorus/high calcium veggies in a dish off to the side (for example: collard greens, mustard greens, turnip greens, and pesticide-free dandelion flowers/greens).


    EXAMPLES OF HIGH PHOSPHORUS MEALWORM BEDDINGS!
    Click: Foods List
    Enter some food like wheat germ
    Scroll down for calcium and phosphorus per 100 grams, for instance, and compare

    • Wheat Germ -- Show Foods
      calcium 39
      phosphorus 842
      ratio: 1 part calcium : 22 parts phosphorus

    • Wheat Bran -- Show Foods
      calcium 73
      phosphorus 1,013
      ratio: 1 part calcium : 14 parts phosphorus

    • Oats -- Show Foods
      calcium 54
      phosphorus 523
      ratio: 1 part calcium : 10 parts phosphorus


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    On the 14 September 2015 I confirmed in person with an experienced Registered Dietitian that this USDA foods database provides excellent and very reliable information.

    I encourage anyone who is thinking about keeping mealworms, superworms, et cetera, on a bed of wheat germ to check out the ratios of calcium : phosphorus first! According to this USDA Foods List, wheat germ is hugely high in phosphorus and extremely low in calcium. Judging by those numbers how could we ever approximate the recommended 1.5-2.0 calcium:1.0 phosphorus levels that way?

    Kretschmer's Wheat Germ is commonly sold in the USA.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside a vivarium <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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