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    Quote Originally Posted by Geopard Lecko View Post
    annnnnnnnnd now im on homedepot looking at building materials.. lol.. my wife told me she didnt want me to build anything an thats why i got the boaphile but im a doit yourselfer so we'll see what happens here..
    Just donít tell her that someone on geckos unlimited gave you the idea to build your own!
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    Well I got her to agree to letting me build one, now that I showed her I'm not using plywood an 2x4's LOL!

    So my thoughts are using black melamine for the structure and clear acrylic for the doors, I'm going to make two 4ft long 2ft deep and 1 ft tall enclosures then split them in the middle giving each gecko a 2ft x 2ft x 1ft space and then stack one on top of the other.

    The melamine is fairly inexpensive and seems to be commonly used an should be "fairly" easy to clean hopefully. It should also be pretty easy to work with I hope, one down side is the heat tape will have to be installed inside the enclosure but that should be ok I will use some vinyl or tile to cover it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geopard Lecko View Post
    Well I got her to agree to letting me build one, now that I showed her I'm not using plywood an 2x4's LOL!

    So my thoughts are using black melamine for the structure and clear acrylic for the doors, I'm going to make two 4ft long 2ft deep and 1 ft tall enclosures then split them in the middle giving each gecko a 2ft x 2ft x 1ft space and then stack one on top of the other.

    The melamine is fairly inexpensive and seems to be commonly used an should be "fairly" easy to clean hopefully. It should also be pretty easy to work with I hope, one down side is the heat tape will have to be installed inside the enclosure but that should be ok I will use some vinyl or tile to cover it.

    I grew up watchin home improvement and macgyver, I'll figure it out!
    Spouse agreement = a WIN!

    • How about building an enclosure closer to 36 inches long x 18 inches wide x 16 (~18 ?) inches high for each leo? It will be easy to create a thermal gradient that way and to use UVB if you prefer. Since the heat mat is elevated, + 4 or so inches higher than a "normal" 12 inch high leo enclosure may be desirable.
    • How will you manage photoperiod lighting?

    With melamine enclosures the heat mat/heat tape should be sandwiched between 2 tiles above the ground by some method like this to provide ventilation for the heat mats and to prevent potential "forest" fires.

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    Here's how I used the UTHs in my melamine enclosures. You might pick up some ideas ----
    UTH setup for melamine enclosures (pictures)
    (The two missing photos won't load for some reason, must be a Photobucket glitch. They're not really necessary, no info lost with them.)

    They were made back in 2000, and were still working when I made some changes last fall. That's over 18 years, the UTHs worked flawlessly.

    The wooden blocks holding the tile up don't look great, but they were there as steps for the geckos to get to the top of the tile, and the warm hide.
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    This thread shows visuals of Hilde's leo enclosures and how she placed the heat mats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Spouse agreement = a WIN!

    • How about building an enclosure closer to 36 inches long x 18 inches wide x 16 (~18 ?) inches high for each leo? It will be easy to create a thermal gradient that way and to use UVB if you prefer. Since the heat mat is elevated, + 4 or so inches higher than a "normal" 12 inch high leo enclosure may be desirable.
      That would make them 6ft long by 3ft tall side by side or 6ft tall by 3ft wide stacked up, for now I would like to stick with the 4ft length, tho I might be willing to go 24" tall?
    • How will you manage photoperiod lighting?
      I was looking at some of the LED puck lights, the ones that you can dim. I probably dont want to go into UVB

    With melamine enclosures the heat mat/heat tape should be sandwiched between 2 tiles above the ground by some method like this to provide ventilation for the heat mats and to prevent potential "forest" fires.
    Perfect, pretty much what I was thinking lol, I like how that design opens up more space, I mean with a normal 1 level setup you get say in my case, 24x24 floor space, but if you incorporate a platform or two its like adding additional space but kept within the same dimension enclosure basically turning an apartment into a townhouse lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilde View Post
    Here's how I used the UTHs in my melamine enclosures. You might pick up some ideas ----
    UTH setup for melamine enclosures (pictures)
    (The two missing photos won't load for some reason, must be a Photobucket glitch. They're not really necessary, no info lost with them.)

    They were made back in 2000, and were still working when I made some changes last fall. That's over 18 years, the UTHs worked flawlessly.

    The wooden blocks holding the tile up don't look great, but they were there as steps for the geckos to get to the top of the tile, and the warm hide.
    I seen some of your pics, thats awesome!

    I think I'll go with the 2 tile design like you guys are suggesting, but heres another idea, what if I just did a pvc bottom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geopard Lecko View Post
    I seen some of your pics, thats awesome!

    I think I'll go with the 2 tile design like you guys are suggesting, but heres another idea, what if I just did a pvc bottom?
    Hilde's photos are great!

    The issue about inside heat mats is ventilation underneath the heat mat.

    Could you construct 2 levels within a 24" tall enclosure similar to those 2 pics I shared of JIMI's leo with the tile setup? How would you heat them?
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    If I used the pvc floor I would use some of them rubber furniture feet or something of that nature to space the enclosures apart 1/8-1/2"

    I just meant that with the tiles raised up off the floor there's more room for activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geopard Lecko View Post
    If I used the pvc floor I would use some of them rubber furniture feet or something of that nature to space the enclosures apart 1/8-1/2"

    I just meant that with the tiles raised up off the floor there's more room for activities.
    : I'm confused, Geopard Lecko. Do you mean "the enclosures" themselves? Spacing the enclosures apart themselves may be a good idea in addition to elevating the heat mats off the ground inside the enclosures.

    How are you planning to ventilate each enclosure?

    If you use something like small tiles to raise the large tiles ~1/2 inch off the ground (similar to the 10 ounce bar glasses in JIMI's enclosure), that should be room enough to ventilate the heat mats.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 02-25-2019 at 01:39 PM.
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    Sorry not trying to confuse you. I got a million ideas runnin thru my mind all at once.. I'll keep you posted.
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