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    Question Using UVB/UVA lighting instead of giving D3 vitamins


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    Hello everyone, I had a question concerning a leopard gecko and Vitamin D3. My leo is about 2 years old, he is nice and fat , no health problems that I know of. He lives in a 30 gallon exo terra tank by himself and 3 hides (moist, hot, and cool) . He has regular lighting ( halogen mini) thats on 12hrs a day and off at night. Lastly he has a heating mat thats on a thermostat set to 92 degrees. The humidity is 50. He is fed once every 3 days (I know this is spread out but he is very fat!) and get 3 bugs each meal (either crickets or mealworms. Now I coat his crickets with Vitamin D3 powder every other meal and he has calcium powder with D3 24/7 in his tank. Sorry for all that but I wanted y'all to have a full picture lol. To my question, Zing (My leo) has been acting like his stomach hurt s after he eats the D3 crickets . I use Zoo Meds Repivite vitamins with D3. I've used it since I got him last year in July . But on top of it appearing to hurt his stomach, he doesnt like the taste at all. Could I just drop the D3 powder and use UVB/UVA lighting ??? I read somewhere that you could but is was not a credible source . Also , he poops normal but I dont feel like he poops enough , then again he doesn't get fed much . I'm not sure how to post a pic but his tail is as big and his head and he has a piggy belly , hes not fat enough for it to restrict his movments or anything though. Back to the question though, what are yalls thoughts on changing the lighting ??? I was thinking about using the Zoo Med deep dome light with the Zoo Med 10.0 UVB reptisun bulb . Thanks for reading !

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    Question Using UVB/UVA lighting instead of giving D3 vitamins

    Is it possible to stop giving Vitamin D3 powder to a leo and use UVB lighting instead ??? I am asking because some of my leos actions have lead me to think that the powder hurta his belly. He is fed once every three days , about 2 to 4 bugs (crickets or mealworms) and they are coated with the D3 every other feeding. Yes I know this isn't much food but my leo is quite chunky ( his tail is as wide as his head). What are your thoughts about UVB and has anyone used it ???

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    I use UVA/UVB and while I don’t dust with d3 as often, I still do once or twice a month because they don’t come out and bask. Personally, the ones with an UVA/UVB light seem more active than my female who doesn’t have one (she has natural light since she’s close enough to the window to get natural light)

    I am a bit confused about the fact that you say the d3 is hurting your geckos stomach. Every other feeding seems a bit much- @Elizabeth Freer has a great supplement guide and it’s d3 once a week or so. Still, I am curious as to what you mean by “hurts their stomach”. Do they not want to eat food with the d3? Do they act weird after they eat it?

    Here’s the link to said schedule http://www.geckosunlimited.com/commu...tml#post492587
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    ZingerLove01, I've merged your threads into one, so all the information is in one place.

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    Thank you for your quick reply! How long have you been using the UVB/UVA light? And what kind are you using (Light fixture and Bulb)? And do you keep calcium in your tank 24/7? Since he is a chunky boy, I started feeding him less frequent with fewer bugs and that's why I give it to him every other feeding. I've read done so much research on D3, some sources say that I am not giving him enough, others that I'm giving too much. I am so confused and just want to do it right. I'll definitely check out her supplement guide! I would really like to use UVB/UVA and like you said, just give him a little D3 once in a while. About the D3 bothering him, I've noticed the last few times I've fed him D3 that he has kinda turned and looked at his stomach and then laid down? His poop looks normal like I said and he's active (in a lazy way lol). I am posting some pictures of him.

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    Thank you! I didn't think that my first post posted and that's why I wrote the other one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZingerLove01 View Post
    Thank you for your quick reply! How long have you been using the UVB/UVA light? And what kind are you using (Light fixture and Bulb)? And do you keep calcium in your tank 24/7? Since he is a chunky boy, I started feeding him less frequent with fewer bugs and that's why I give it to him every other feeding. I've read done so much research on D3, some sources say that I am not giving him enough, others that I'm giving too much. I am so confused and just want to do it right. I'll definitely check out her supplement guide! I would really like to use UVB/UVA and like you said, just give him a little D3 once in a while. About the D3 bothering him, I've noticed the last few times I've fed him D3 that he has kinda turned and looked at his stomach and then laid down? His poop looks normal like I said and he's active (in a lazy way lol). I am posting some pictures of him.

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    Aw, he’s adorable! I use Zilla Slimline Desert fixture for my leos. They have both UVA and UVB lighting and it fits across a tanks lid pretty well. None of the leos seem to use them, but they do soak up whatever light reaches them. I keep them on a 12 hour timer. From 8 am - 8 pm they’re on. Also I don’t think your gecko’s tummy is getting hurt by the d3 if all he’s doing is looking at his belly and lying down. He’s probably just being a gecko. One of mine does something similar every so often and he’s fine.

    Also I do keep pure calcium in their cages. I personally think that they know how much calcium they need so keeping pure calcium in a little bowl/lid isn’t harmful
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    Now I coat his crickets with Vitamin D3 powder every other meal and he has calcium powder with D3 24/7 in his tank. Sorry for all that but I wanted y'all to have a full picture lol. To my question, Zing (My leo) has been acting like his stomach hurt s after he eats the D3 crickets . I use Zoo Meds Repivite vitamins with D3. I've used it since I got him last year in July . But on top of it appearing to hurt his stomach, he doesnt like the taste at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZingerLove01 View Post
    Is it possible to stop giving Vitamin D3 powder to a leo and use UVB lighting instead ??? I am asking because some of my leos actions have lead me to think that the powder hurta his belly. He is fed once every three days , about 2 to 4 bugs (crickets or mealworms) and they are coated with the D3 every other feeding. Yes I know this isn't much food but my leo is quite chunky ( his tail is as wide as his head). What are your thoughts about UVB and has anyone used it ???
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited to you and to Zing.

    Zing has way too much access to vitamin D3. There is no need for D3 in the calcium as well as the multivitamin! I recommend buying Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins without D3 and following the first Schedule 126 I post below.
    This one:
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    Does Zing have Exo Terra's 36 x 18 x 18 inch tall enclosure? You mention Zing is roughly 2 years old. I suggest Schedule 126, prior to setting up for UVB. Then, after your leo has been using UVB, follow Schedule 156. You'll find both schedules in the Table of Contents link in my signature.

    If you buy Slimline's fixture switch out Slimline's fluorescent tube to a much more reliable Zoo Med's Reptisun tube, probably a 5.0 T8 tube or T5 tube. In 2018 Arcadia developed ShadeDweller lighting especially for leopard geckos and cresties. Several places carry ShadeDweller in the USA. Some folks time UVB to go off 30-60 minutes at dawn and another 30-60 minutes at dusk.

    Since vitamin D3 is fat soluble, only dose it at 1 feeding per week. Just lightly dust the feeders with the supplement powders. That's plenty!

    Admin Hilde does not recommend keeping any dish of plain calcium in the enclosure for these reasons.


    I prefer this combo, because Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 sticks better than Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins does.

    Weekly Schedule 126 for Leopard Geckos 18 months old +
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    • Crickets or dubia >> Monday - lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    • Crickets or dubia >> Thursday - lightly dusted with Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins without D3
    • Mealworms >> Saturday - no dusting

    Weekly Schedule 126 for Leopard Geckos 18 months old +
    (without UVB)
    Adapted for your leo Zing

    • Crickets or dubia >> Monday - lightly dusted with Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins with D3
    • Crickets or dubia >> Thursday - lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium without D3
    • Mealworms >> Saturday - no dusting
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 05-16-2019 at 02:28 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    If you buy Slimline's fixture switch out Slimline's fluorescent tube to a much more reliable Zoo Med's Reptisun tube, probably a 5.0 T8 tube or T5 tube. In 2018 Arcadia developed ShadeDweller lighting especially for leopard geckos and cresties. Several places carry ShadeDweller in the USA. Some folks time UVB to go off 30-60 minutes at dawn and another 30-60 minutes at dusk.
    When you say more reliable, you are referring to the fact that the Zilla Bulbs aren’t all that reliable, correct? They are not dangerous, right?

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    Thank you for your reply and the feeding schedules! I JUST REALIZED THAT I SAID THE CALCIUM IN HIS TANK HAS D3 , IT DOES NOT . IT IS PLAIN CALCIUM! How many bugs would you do each feeding with him being a little chunky and how many would you give after he got back to a healthy weight? Is 2-4 bugs to little? I want him to lose weight but I also want him getting enough calcium/D3/vitamins from the coated bugs.

    His tank is Exo Terra's 24" by 18" by 18"

    I read Admin Hilde's post also and I am definitely considering taking my calcium out! I've had Zing for almost a year, feeding him the supplements like I said so I don't feel like I've done completely awful lol. But I do feel like he could be more active so that's why I wanted to see about changing stuff a bit. And I was going to ask, does the preferred feeding schedule need anything else added or can I just follow it without doing anything else (no other supplements)?

    And as far as UVB goes, would this work or no? The top of my tank has a weird lid and a long light fixture would not sit right.

    https://www.chewy.com/zoo-med-reptis...tent=Zoo%20Med

    https://www.chewy.com/zoo-med-repti-...lamp/dp/190107

    Sorry about all the questions!
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