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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanatic View Post
    I have been working on the heating and fixing what isn't right, and after refering to the leopard gecko caresheet on this forum I found some extremely helpful tips. I am ordering another ultratherm 11x17 so that I can line up two next to each other to cover half the bottom of the tank, and the jumpstart thermostat is working perfectly.

    I also made a moist hide from a tupperware container which I cut a hole into and covered with airline tubing cut into half so I could fold it over the edges. It has moistened sphagnum moss in it.

    I am going to order a new set of hides, new substrate, and the extra heater. Then we should be good to go!
    Ultratherms have "something" on them that sticks out a little beyond the 11 inch width. Rotate the 11 x 17 inch Ultratherms 180 degrees when you stick them to your enclosure. That way 2 Ultratherms should sit side-by-side with NO gap.

    Using Insulation Underneath the Heat Pad......Keith -- April 2018
    "I suggest that an Ultratherm UTH is a must. The Ultratherm needs foam insulation under it, directing the heat upward and into the enclosure. From what I understand, other brands call for air under the UTH, which just allows heat to be lost! The fact that the Ultratherms should have foam insulation under them rather than air also says volumes about their safety. I only know this because I’m still setting up my Vivarium as well."

    You might need a different thermostat. Jumpstart thermostats only accept a single UTH or overhead lamp. Inkbird has a model that accepts 2 separate devices.

    Inkbird Thermostats: Inkbird manufactures 2 similar models that only control HEAT (no cooling). Both are rated to 1,200 watts. Both models have 2 sockets for controlling two separate heat mats or two separate CHE dome fixtures set at the same temperature. Each model has only 1 probe.

    18 April 2018: Savannah shares: "Now is there an attachment you can buy where another probe plugs in."

    Model #1: INK306T

    Model #2: Inkbird ITC-306T
    • Click: https://www.amazon.com/Inkbird-Elect...words=itc-306t
    • Inkbird's ITC-306T Digital 2-Outlet Heat Temperature Controller/thermostat has a built-in ultra-capacitor. When the ultra-capacitor is fully charged, this thermostat will work for more than 20 days without electricity.
    • blondebrown coat states: "I love it! It keeps very true temps, has a max/min customizable threshold, day and night temp settings, and an alarm if temps get out of whack."
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 06-27-2019 at 04:52 PM.
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Ultratherms have "something" on them that sticks out a little beyond the 11 inch width. Rotate the 11 x 17 inch Ultratherms 180 degrees when you stick them to your enclosure. That way 2 Ultratherms should sit side-by-side with NO gap.

    Using Insulation Underneath the Heat Pad......Keith -- April 2018
    "I suggest that an Ultratherm UTH is a must. The Ultratherm needs foam insulation under it, directing the heat upward and into the enclosure. From what I understand, other brands call for air under the UTH, which just allows heat to be lost! The fact that the Ultratherms should have foam insulation under them rather than air also says volumes about their safety. I only know this because I’m still setting up my Vivarium as well."

    You might need a different thermostat. Jumpstart thermostats only accept a single UTH or overhead lamp. Inkbird has a model that accepts 2 separate devices.
    Thanks! I was going to call their customer support and ask if I could just hook up an extension cord to the outlet on the jumpstart and plug in two heat mats that way, but I really like the Inkbird thermostat idea a lot better, thanks for recommending it!

    I temporarily installed one of the 11x17 ultratherm pads (after testing it this morning) for now just so there is heat being given, but I will reinstall everything properly once everything has arrived.
    "Pets can bring all sorts of memories, cherish the good ones."

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    40 Gallon "36x18x16" enclosure with a female Eublepharis Macularius (Leopard Gecko)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanatic View Post
    Thanks! I was going to call their customer support and ask if I could just hook up an extension cord to the outlet on the jumpstart and plug in two heat mats that way, but I really like the Inkbird thermostat idea a lot better, thanks for recommending it!

    I temporarily installed one of the 11x17 ultratherm pads (after testing it this morning) for now just so there is heat being given, but I will reinstall everything properly once everything has arrived.
    You're quite welcome! I'm happy that you are finding that Leopard Gecko Caresheet helpful. It's truly a work in progress.

    Please update this thread after you phone Ultratherm's customer support. I'm interested in what they'll say.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Hi Elizabeth, sorry for being late to reply.

    Both ultratherm and hydrofarm said it wouldn’t be ideal to daisy chain two heating pads together due to only having one probe, even though it might not be too much for the thermostat to handle, it’s not a great idea. I found a deal on the Inkbird thermostat so I am thinking I will get that one.

    I received a brand new UVB bulb yesterday, and I plan to order the rest of the supplies soon.
    "Pets can bring all sorts of memories, cherish the good ones."

    "If you enjoy something,
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    40 Gallon "36x18x16" enclosure with a female Eublepharis Macularius (Leopard Gecko)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanatic View Post
    Hi Elizabeth, sorry for being late to reply.

    Both ultratherm and hydrofarm said it wouldn’t be ideal to daisy chain two heating pads together due to only having one probe, even though it might not be too much for the thermostat to handle, it’s not a great idea. I found a deal on the Inkbird thermostat so I am thinking I will get that one.

    I received a brand new UVB bulb yesterday, and I plan to order the rest of the supplies soon.
    No worries at all, Fanatic. Thanks for sharing about your daisy chain idea. It's definitely exciting when we find good deals on some supplies!
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    I also wanted to ask you, we are using a 10.0 13W UVB, how high would you recommend it be above a 16 inch tank?
    "Pets can bring all sorts of memories, cherish the good ones."

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    40 Gallon "36x18x16" enclosure with a female Eublepharis Macularius (Leopard Gecko)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanatic View Post
    I also wanted to ask you, we are using a 10.0 13W UVB, how high would you recommend it be above a 16 inch tank?
    UVB and heat go hand in hand. Place your UVB bulb or tube directly above the warm end of your gecko's enclosure. Place the fixture directly upon the enclosure's screen top rather than at some angle. That way your gecko receives full benefit of the valuable rays. I've not read about minimum temps which facilitate UVB absorption.

    Leos are shade dwellers.

    Zoo Med has a lighting chart based upon each ReptiSun UVB compact fluorescent bulb or tube they sell. Does this chart help you with the proper height?



    For link 157 click: Providing UVB for shade dwellers like leopard geckos......Elizabeth Freer -- June 2019
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-01-2019 at 06:56 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    @Elizabeth Freer

    I received two ten pound bags of the excavator clay that I planned to mix in with some eco earth and sand to create a lighter dirt colored substrate, and maybe in the future top some areas with a coarse but smooth pebble like gravel for a realistic accent.

    The hides are still in progress, as the ones we currently have do not seem to be providing enough privacy for her to conceal herself when inside of them, and these new hides I am wanting have some space at the side and rear past the opening so you cannot easily see your gecko inside of them. They also go very well with the design I planned for the enclosure.

    I got the inkbird thermostat and the extra heating pad so that I can heat half of the tank for adequate heat. I will continue to update as things progress, and post some pictures!
    "Pets can bring all sorts of memories, cherish the good ones."

    "If you enjoy something,
    don't let anything stand in your way,
    pursue your dreams."

    40 Gallon "36x18x16" enclosure with a female Eublepharis Macularius (Leopard Gecko)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanatic View Post
    @Elizabeth Freer

    I received two ten pound bags of the excavator clay that I planned to mix in with some eco earth and sand to create a lighter dirt colored substrate, and maybe in the future top some areas with a coarse but smooth pebble like gravel for a realistic accent.

    The hides are still in progress, as the ones we currently have do not seem to be providing enough privacy for her to conceal herself when inside of them, and these new hides I am wanting have some space at the side and rear past the opening so you cannot easily see your gecko inside of them. They also go very well with the design I planned for the enclosure.

    I got the inkbird thermostat and the extra heating pad so that I can heat half of the tank for adequate heat. I will continue to update as things progress, and post some pictures!
    Many thanks for updating this thread!

    There's a problem here. Excavator Clay and Eco Earth's coco fiber are insulators. Unless the substrate is quite thin, both will prevent Ultratherm heat from reaching your leo. If and when you use a thicker, more naturalistic substrate, you may need overhead head alone.

    If you create underground tunnels, I suggest PVC pipe to keep the tunnels from collapsing.


    Supplying a generous amount of belly heat + UVB over the warm end will benefit your leo for a long time. Naturalistic enclosures are pretty cool. I imagine you'd see different behaviors surface.

    This is not what you had in mind, but it's a thorough thread by a GU leo keeper who used Excavator Clay.

    Zoo Med Excavator Clay Custom Build......swisswiss (Jeff) -- 27 Jan 2016
    Click: Swisswiss's terrarium
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 07-06-2019 at 04:28 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    I very much appreciate your immediate concern, as we are fully aware that it does indeed block some heat, we used this stuff on our first enclosure before we had upgraded, and we used it hardened.

    I am not going to be hardening it this time, we are mixing it in with the other substrates to create a coarser like covering to best replicate that rocky terrain of their natural habitat, so we won't be molding tunnels with it as we don't have enough for that. I have the substrate planned to be half an inch to an inch deep on the heating side, and with our current probe on top of the substrate, it is usually reading 90.5F and shuts off anywhere after 91F.
    "Pets can bring all sorts of memories, cherish the good ones."

    "If you enjoy something,
    don't let anything stand in your way,
    pursue your dreams."

    40 Gallon "36x18x16" enclosure with a female Eublepharis Macularius (Leopard Gecko)
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