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    Question HELP!!! Ok, what is considered normal/abnormal behavior??????


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    I don't know whether to worry about Crush or not!!! I get she's going to be upset due to being moved to a new home and getting new parents. We're not total strangers though, and while she was moved to a different tank with different substrate, it's not all 100% unfamiliar. We wanted the transition to be as smooth as possible. Anyway, she has always been a really big eater. She hasn't eaten a single bite since she's been here. When she was first put in the tank she didn't really explore, she just sat there at the top of the log/branch my daughter placed her on. I had to put her lower down. She DID explore the dish I put the dusted meal worms in, that was it. The crawled under the rock water dish hide, dug out all the reptibark, burrowed so far back in there you can't hardly see her and has not come out at all since. Not even at night when everyone is in bed. The first day she was here she would at least like her nose out periodically. Since then, not even the tip of her tail is visible!!!

    So, should I worry??? How long would they normally go without eating in a situation like this??? How long should I let her continue this behavior without intervening?
    Simply put, WHAT SHOULD I DO??????

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    how many days have you had her? a change in environment can result in up to several weeks of a reduced appetite.

    I would encourage you to check this link. it's an entire subforum dedicated to Leos that are having appetite problems.
    http://www.geckosunlimited.com/commu...eding-issues-/
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    Please share a photo of Crush's enclosure.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    My daughter brought her over on Monday. I guess I'm just overly cautious and scared after losing Squirt the way we did. She waited until Squirt had already become what the Vet called anorexic before actually handing her over. Don't get me wrong, it's not like she stopped feeding her. She actually thought Crush was eating all the food and starving Squirt because here Squirt just kept losing weight and Crush just kept getting bigger and bigger. She weighed in at 70-71 grams when she got here on Monday.

    So, do I leave her alone then? Or should I try to give her some attention and try to get her to bond with me?
    Also, her enclosure is somewhat temporary, I'm getting her a larger more appropriate tank with a better set up for more accurate temperature regulation and humidity levels. But, here is the picture you asked for. She's under the water bowl rock on the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillysmom View Post
    My daughter brought her over on Monday. I guess I'm just overly cautious and scared after losing Squirt the way we did. She waited until Squirt had already become what the Vet called anorexic before actually handing her over. Don't get me wrong, it's not like she stopped feeding her. She actually thought Crush was eating all the food and starving Squirt because here Squirt just kept losing weight and Crush just kept getting bigger and bigger. She weighed in at 70-71 grams when she got here on Monday.

    So, do I leave her alone then? Or should I try to give her some attention and try to get her to bond with me?
    Also, her enclosure is somewhat temporary, I'm getting her a larger more appropriate tank with a better set up for more accurate temperature regulation and humidity levels. But, here is the picture you asked for. She's under the water bowl rock on the left.
    Geckos Unlimited is extremely experienced in leo care.

    Let's continue on this very thread to avoid many repeats. The Husbandry, Housing, and Heating subforum is the perfect place to do that. It makes it so much easier on everyone to have most of the info on a single thread.

    Crush may very well have been hogging Squirt's food.

    • It's quite helpful to see how Crush is set up. I appreciate that photo. What size enclosure does she have?
    • Wait until Crush has settled in prior to handling her at all!
    • Wait until Crush is eating on a regular basis too. That could take some time. It's all dependent upon the individual leo.
    • Attention you wish to provide at this time may not be what the Crush has in mind.
    • Please set up Crush up in a 20 long (or larger) ASAP. That's for the best. Big box stores like PetCo have $-per-gallon sales frequently.
    • Crush is looking for security. She may benefit by covering any exposed sides and maybe the back with brown paper bags.
    • She needs 3 distinct hides: warm dry & warm humid on the warm end + a cool hide on the cool end. Many of the hides should just have 1 single entrance.
    • Here's a humid hide you can make.



    Here's a custom video a GU friend made for me in 2012 which may help with Crush's set up.
    To view click Leopard Gecko Setup, not the arrow:
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    • Place no supplements in the enclosure at all.
    • Remove any background that they can climb. Then your leopard gecko will have more ground space to explore. Some leos will climb a background, but then fall off and could get hurt.
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Alright, I will get her a 20 gal tank and and everything she needs asap. Thank you!!!! I will post pictures as soon as I get it set up. I give her fresh water every day. To do that, I empty the stale water. When I did that yesterday, Crush ran over, ate a couple meal worms and went back under water rock when I put it back. It was kinda cute. She's starting to poke her head out every now and then, but not much. I'll get that new tank asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillysmom View Post
    Alright, I will get her a 20 gal tank and and everything she needs asap. Thank you!!!! I will post pictures as soon as I get it set up. I give her fresh water every day. To do that, I empty the stale water. When I did that yesterday, Crush ran over, ate a couple meal worms and went back under water rock when I put it back. It was kinda cute. She's starting to poke her head out every now and then, but not much. I'll get that new tank asap.
    You're welcome.

    If you already know this, sorry. A 20 long measures 30 x 12 x 12 inches tall. That's the enclosure Crush needs, not the 20 regular.
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    Actually, I didn't know that and I'm going tomorrow to get her a new tank. I think since she is on the larger side I'm going to get her a slightly larger tank. Yes, I've noticed reptile tanks are NOT the same thing as fish tanks and should not be confused with each other. I will be very particular about that so my girl gets the best of everything!!! Thank you very much because without you I probably would've gotten her the wrong thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillysmom View Post
    Actually, I didn't know that and I'm going tomorrow to get her a new tank. I think since she is on the larger side I'm going to get her a slightly larger tank. Yes, I've noticed reptile tanks are NOT the same thing as fish tanks and should not be confused with each other. I will be very particular about that so my girl gets the best of everything!!! Thank you very much because without you I probably would've gotten her the wrong thing.
    You're welcome!

    Just saying: Please get the 20 long. Crush will be so happy. Me too. Anything smaller will need upgrading too soon.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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