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    Exclamation please help!!! leo climbing walls and trying to escape?


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    i posted a thread earlier in the health and diseases section but im not sure if thats the right place for it. im sorry to make multiple posts but as i have anxiety disorder i get scared abt things very easily and want to make sure my baby is okay. heres the gist: my ~9 month old leo cinnamon is acting very put of character tonight, as she is climbing all the walls and structures and doors to her terrarium but otherwise isnt showing any signs of stress. its really really worrying me because she hasnt acted like this since she was much younger in a much smaller 10 gallon tank (shes now in an exoterra medium low terrarium) im wondering, could her tank be too warm? the air temperature in the warm side is about 85 degrees but the air temp in my room is around 78 ish so i cant imagine the cool side of her tank could be any cooler than that. i have no control over the ac so all i can do is turn a fan on unfortunately. should i put her in her old tank and keep her in the living room overnight where its much cooler or will that stress her out even more??

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    the warm side needs to be warmer than that. about 90-92 is a good heat. do you have a heatmatt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geecko123 View Post
    the warm side needs to be warmer than that. about 90-92 is a good heat. do you have a heatmatt?
    The GROUND temp should be 90 to 92 on the warm side but not the air temperature. I would ensure that the ground temp is hitting 90-92 and air temp is not much more than 83 ideally on the warm side. Although I would assume the evening would cool down somewhat. Your cool side temps may be a little warmer than ideal as well as your warm side air temps but not too extreme I think. I would hesitate in putting her into a different environment. See the information below in my signature on ideal care temps. I would wait for some more opinions before you do anything, particularly from Elizabeth and Aliza.

    Here is an excerpt from the care sheet on recommended temps:

    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C):
    Warm end ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) inside a leo's warm dry hide and his moist hide too!
    Cool end ground temperature: 70ish-75 F (21.1-23.9 C) Usually the cool end ground temperature matches the room temperature where the enclosure sits.
    no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the warm end
    no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. If you wish, during the night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).
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    oops, sorry, yeah the GROUND temp.

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    Exclamation help needed! gecko not eating and glass surfing!

    bro... is my gecko going through puberty...

    ok so my gecko cinnamon is about 9 months old now. the past few days shes been really restless, climbing the glass, and tonight she wouldnt eat. she usually eats mealworms and crickets but ive been out of those this week and have been feeding her superworms. ive ruled out temperatures because everything, air temp on both sides and heat mat temp are all normal, shes pooping normally, but her belly is a little bigger and is soft. is she ovulating or could something else be wrong? ill attach some pictures of her and her enclosure 20190823_220429.jpg20190823_220419.jpg

    ive made a few posts lately trying to figure out whats going on and havent really gotten any help. im a broke 19 year old who lives with his mom and cant afford to take her to the vet only to find out shes perfectly fine and i just need to adjust something at home so if anyone could please give me and advice or a second opinion id appreciate it

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    Hi ~

    Cinnamon could be ovulating. Has she lost any weight? She appears to be a healthy size.

    Do you have a heat mat? That's the best way to heat a leo. Overhead heating gets way too hot in order for ground temps to be adequate! For an Exo Terra Medium Low (24 x 18 x 12 inches tall) I recommend an Ultratherm heat mat 11 x 17 inch on a thermostat.

    You posted air temps in your other post. What type thermometer are you using? Please get a yellow Zoo Med digital thermometer with a probe so you can share exact ground temps. PetCo carries those for about $10. What is the warm end temp inside her warm dry hide? What is the cool end ground temp?

    How often are you feeding her? What brand, name, and type supplements are you using?

    Please share pics without reflections so we can see her better. Please include a belly picture, too.

    On your last thread Marillion shared a chart indicating what the ground temps should be. I did not see any reply.
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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    clavicusvile, I've merged your two threads: "help needed! gecko not eating and glass surfing!" and "please help!!! leo climbing walls and trying to escape?" Both threads deal with related problems, so it's easier to keep track with them in the same thread.

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    Cin hasn't lost any weight as of the past few days. I have a heat mat with a thermostat. as of right now the temp in the ground is 88 degrees. I have a 2 small non-digital zoomed thermometer but i will go and get a digital one tomorrow! the air temp on the warm side is 84 degrees and the cool side ground temp is about 75. I feed her every other day (m, w, f, and a little bit on sunday). i alternate between using reptical with d3, without, and reptivite.

    here are some better pictures of cinnamon: 20190824_222145.jpg20190824_222039.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by clavicusvile View Post
    Cin hasn't lost any weight as of the past few days. I have a heat mat with a thermostat. as of right now the temp in the ground is 88 degrees. I have a 2 small non-digital zoomed thermometer but i will go and get a digital one tomorrow! the air temp on the warm side is 84 degrees and the cool side ground temp is about 75. I feed her every other day (m, w, f, and a little bit on sunday). i alternate between using reptical with d3, without, and reptivite.

    here are some better pictures of cinnamon: 20190824_222145.jpg20190824_222039.jpg
    Cin IS female. I can't see any eggs.

    If you have circle (analog) thermometers, sometimes they aren't all that accurate. Let us know what you discover with your new digital thermometer with a probe. Knowing the actual ground temps is the basis for good leo husbandry.

    To confirm Cin's feeding & supplements, here's the schedule I recommend. Just follow the Monday, Wednesday, Friday days in blue since she's about 9 months old.

    Weekly Schedule 124 for Leopard Geckos 0-12 months old
    (without UVB)

    • Crickets or dubia >> Monday - lightly dusted with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3
    • Mealworms >> Tuesday
    • Crickets or dubia >> Wednesday - lightly dusted with pure precipitated calcium carbonate without D3 (Zoo Med's Repti Calcium or NOW human brand calcium)
    • Crickets or dubia >> Thursday
    • Crickets or dubia >> Friday - lightly dusted with Zoo Med's ReptiVite multivitamins without D3
    • Mealworms >> Saturday
    • No food or free choice >> Sunday
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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