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    Just got some Zoomed repti calcium with D3 . I figure that I shouldn’t give it to her this week considering that I already gave her repashy calcium plus the day before. It’s bad enough that she has early signs of mbd, it won’t do her any good to give her a d3 overdose either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digs View Post
    Also, can I use the Repashy calcium plus schedule or do I need to buy zoomed repti calcium with d3? I just turned off the UVB light.
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    This is my opinion only. Hopefully Elizabeth Freer can confirm if it is sound.

    I don't think it would do any harm leaving your current light on, until you get the compact fluorescent Zoo Med 10.0. Assuming that is what you want to do. Clearly your gecko is not taking enough advantage of the current light to receive adequate D3 as is. I would definitely follow supplementation 125 as recommended by Elizabeth above.

    The key thing here is to follow that supplementation schedule 125 right away. If you turn off the UVB light and go by just the ambient light that is fine also. Just make sure to get the supplementation right. I would recommend the Zoo Med Repti Cal with D3 above the Repashy version personally. But I am not as familiar with the Repashy product. Perhaps Elizabeth (or others) can give you better advice on that.
    The overall brightness of the T8 18 inch ReptiSun 5.0 strip light on a 20 long may be why Asia mostly keeps hidden.

    My 14 yo female leo doesn't have UVB. Her enclosure is in a relatively darkish corner of my living room ~30 feet from a southern sliding glass deck door and somewhat closer to eastern windows. To provide a photo period, several years ago I added a 15 watt incandescent bulb that's dimmed to half power by a rheostat. I further shade the bulb by a tall silk palm tree right underneath that bulb. The bulb is contained in a Fluker's 5.5 inch diameter fixture. My leo frequently lies outside her hides.

    In the meantime, before your MINI-compact fluorescent ReptiSun 10.0 bulb arrives, you might try that.

    Repashy's Calcium Plus Schedule 144 has been recommended by GU member acpart (Aliza). That's how she used that product in her leo breeding days.

    Zoo Med supplements contain significantly more calcium per dose than Repashy's Calcium Plus does and just the "right" amount of vitamin D3 when used weekly. If you use Schedule 125 Asia will be getting vitamin D3 on a weekly basis. That may surpass D3 @ every other feeding.

    Allen Repashy recently confirmed to me that the Vitamin A Supplement on Repashy labels = Vitamin A acetate (retinol).
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 12-03-2019 at 07:46 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Marillion ~

    What size dome fixture do you use for your mini-compact ReptiSun 10.0 bulb?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marillion View Post
    Thanks for the mention Elizabeth. Yes, I do use the Zoo Med ReptiSun Mini-compact fluorescent bulb in my 20 Long enclosure. As long as you have about 10-12" area between your gecko and the bulb it will work well. Many folks seem to think that the 10.0 is too much but the key point here is that this is the MINI bulb we are talking about. Not the full length one. The UV amount the mini bulb puts out is FAR less than what the full length bulb produces.

    I have confirmed that this particular bulb will work well for this application with Dr. Fran Baines, the noted reptile lighting expert with Arcadia. Based on her testing, the 10.0 Mini bulb by Zoo Med does provide some D3 for our Geckos (assuming they come out once in a while during daylight hours or have some part of their body exposed from their enclosure.) However, she still recommends additional D3 supplementation by dusting prey insects once a month.

    I should add, even if adequate exposure is achieved. The 5.0 MINI version Zoo Med bulb would not provide enough D3 exposure of any consequence at 12".
    I'm just confused about one thing. What difference will the compact reptisun 10.0 bulb make in terms of my gecko's confidence to come out? Isn't it just as bright as the 18" reptisun 5.0 bulb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digs View Post
    Just got some Zoomed repti calcium with D3 . I figure that I shouldn’t give it to her this week considering that I already gave her repashy calcium plus the day before. It’s bad enough that she has early signs of mbd, it won’t do her any good to give her a d3 overdose either.
    Excellent, Digs!

    Start Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 this coming week along with the rest of Schedule 125. A single dose of vitamin D3 per week helps metabolize plain calcium (and calcium from other sources like her Reptivite) all week long, since D3 is a fat soluble vitamin.

    Give Asia's insects a separate dusting of plain calcium carbonate this week too.

    I realize Asia's MBD is tough to swallow. I'm sorry. Thanks to you we caught it in the early stages. You are taking immediate action to hopefully reverse this problem while Asia's still growing!
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digs View Post
    I'm just confused about one thing. What difference will the compact reptisun 10.0 bulb make in terms of my gecko's confidence to come out? Isn't it just as bright as the 18" reptisun 5.0 bulb?
    A mini-compact 10.0 fluorescent bulb is more a "spotlight" thing. There will be more room to dodge the rays in her 20 gallon long.

    Strip lighting spreads out bright rays over a wider area.

    Zoo Med manufactures 4 different ReptiSun cf bulbs: 5.0 mini-compact, 5.0 regular, 10.0 mini-compact, and 10.0 regular. The regular cf bulbs are longer than the corresponding minis.

    Marillion may see this thread later this morning. Let's see what size dome fixture he's using.
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    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    He, actually. Sorry I couldn't reply until this morning. I have the Zilla 8.5" reflector dome that I have the light bulb in. It sits on top of a sliding wire mesh top. Believe it or not, even the wire mesh blocks some of the UV rays. For reference, here is a link to what the dome looks like:
    https://www.amazon.com/Zilla-Premium...-20&th=1&psc=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marillion View Post
    He, actually. Sorry I couldn't reply until this morning. I have the Zilla 8.5" reflector dome that I have the light bulb in. It sits on top of a sliding wire mesh top. Believe it or not, even the wire mesh blocks some of the UV rays. For reference, here is a link to what the dome looks like:
    https://www.amazon.com/Zilla-Premium...-20&th=1&psc=1
    Does the shape of the dome matter? I have 2 dome light fixtures that can handle the wattage of the uvb. Fluker’s deep dome fixture to be specific.

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    It would only matter inasmuch how far away the light bulb ends up being from the target point. If the deep dome ends up having the bulb quite a bit farther away than 12" it may not allow enough UV light to reach your Gecko. However, if you follow some kind of D3 supplementation schedule, you would likely be ok. The trick would be in trying to figure out how much D3 to supplement. You may need to talk to Dr. Fran Baines on this if Elizabeth isn't sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    The overall brightness of the T8 18 inch ReptiSun 5.0 strip light on a 20 long may be why Asia mostly keeps hidden.

    My 14 yo female leo doesn't have UVB. Her enclosure is in a relatively darkish corner of my living room ~30 feet from a southern sliding glass deck door and somewhat closer to eastern windows. To provide a photo period, several years ago I added a 15 watt incandescent bulb that's dimmed to half power by a rheostat. I further shade the bulb by a tall silk palm tree right underneath that bulb. The bulb is contained in a Fluker's 5.5 inch diameter fixture. My leo frequently lies outside her hides.

    In the meantime, before your MINI-compact fluorescent ReptiSun 10.0 bulb arrives, you might try that.

    Repashy's Calcium Plus Schedule 144 has been recommended by GU member acpart (Aliza). That's how she used that product in her leo breeding days.

    Zoo Med supplements contain significantly more calcium per dose than Repashy's Calcium Plus does and just the "right" amount of vitamin D3 when used weekly. If you use Schedule 125 Asia will be getting vitamin D3 on a weekly basis. That may surpass D3 @ every other feeding.

    Allen Repashy recently confirmed to me that the Vitamin A Supplement on Repashy labels = Vitamin A acetate (retinol).
    Is the wattage important? I canít find a 15 watt at my Wal-mart. Maybe I could down grade my basking bulb to a 25 watt so then I can have it brighter. The 75 watt basking bulb I have is dimmed to the point that I canít even see the ground of the tank but Iím afraid if I adjust the brightness to go higher the ambient temperature will be too high .

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