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    Quote Originally Posted by Marillion View Post
    He, actually. Sorry I couldn't reply until this morning. I have the Zilla 8.5" reflector dome that I have the light bulb in. It sits on top of a sliding wire mesh top. Believe it or not, even the wire mesh blocks some of the UV rays. For reference, here is a link to what the dome looks like:
    https://www.amazon.com/Zilla-Premium...-20&th=1&psc=1
    Oops, Marillion. I "knew" that. There are NO excuses for my error. So sorry.
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    No need to feel bad Elizabeth!! Please don't even give it a second thought.
    Click here for Elizabeth Freer's excellent Leopard Gecko care database.
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    Went to Home Depot and they had a 15 watt iridescent bulb . I dimmed it to half way but I see that the light is pretty dim at that point, like it’s always dawn or dusk instead of day. Can I have the bulb at full power or should I really have it dimmed halfway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digs View Post
    Is the wattage important? I can’t find a 15 watt at my Wal-mart. Maybe I could down grade my basking bulb to a 25 watt so then I can have it brighter. The 75 watt basking bulb I have is dimmed to the point that I can’t even see the ground of the tank but I’m afraid if I adjust the brightness to go higher the ambient temperature will be too high .
    Downgrading your "basking" bulb is a good idea. Then that could be the photo period bulb. Leos tend to dodge bright lights.

    • Have you an under tank heat mat? About what dimensions?
    • Do you totally want UVB?
    • /\ Of course that depends upon setup and Asia's willingness to use it.

    I recommend healing Asia's early stage MBD with powdered vitamin D3. Doing that eliminates UVB exposure variables. That dosage is easy to control. It's simpler than trying to combine a powdered supplement with UVB. When she's recovered, we can revisit UVB.

    For a 20 long I recommend:
    1. an 11 x 17 inch Ultratherm heat mat (Reptile Basics, Reptile Supply Company ?, or the Bean Farm) These are top-notch, reusable, and rarely fail.
    2. a thermostat for the heat mat
    3. a separate thermometer to verify your thermostat's setting
    4. If Asia needs additional heat then use a dimmer/rheostat to control the overhead heat.
    5. CHEs (ceramic heat emitters) are ideal for overhead heat. CHEs emit heat but NOT light.
    6. Then use Home Depot's 15 watt incandescent bulb controlled by a dimmer for the photo period.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 12-04-2019 at 07:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digs View Post
    Went to Home Depot and they had a 15 watt iridescent bulb . I dimmed it to half way but I see that the light is pretty dim at that point, like it’s always dawn or dusk instead of day. Can I have the bulb at full power or should I really have it dimmed halfway?
    Yes, dim the 15 watt halfway. (Do you mean incandescent?)

    My leo also has a 20 long. Her 15 watt is dimmed halfway. It's even further shaded from the ground by a tall silk palm tree. It's plenty bright enough. She's snoozing out in the open, under the palm tree, right now.

    It's 4:30 PM in Oregon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Excellent, Digs!

    Start Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3 this coming week along with the rest of Schedule 125. A single dose of vitamin D3 per week helps metabolize plain calcium (and calcium from other sources like her Reptivite) all week long, since D3 is a fat soluble vitamin.

    Give Asia's insects a separate dusting of plain calcium carbonate this week too.

    I realize Asia's MBD is tough to swallow. I'm sorry. Thanks to you we caught it in the early stages. You are taking immediate action to hopefully reverse this problem while Asia's still growing!
    I'm quoting my post just to make certain you have seen the highlighted blue part.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 12-04-2019 at 07:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Yes, dim the 15 watt halfway. (Do you mean incandescent?)

    My leo also has a 20 long. Her 15 watt is dimmed halfway. It's even further shaded from the ground by a tall silk palm tree. It's plenty bright enough. She's snoozing out in the open, under the palm tree, right now.

    It's 4:30 PM in Oregon.
    Yep that’s the type of bulb I mean lol XD
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    Hi Digs ~

    Have you also seen my replies #34 and #36 on this thread? Please check post numbers in the upper right hand corner.

    Do you recall what Asia's gait looked like 7 months ago? Were you using Schedule 124 at that time? With which brand supplements? I ask especially because Repashy's Calcium Plus contains significantly less calcium than does Reptivite and Repti Calcium.

    Asia's gradual improvement from early stage MBD on Schedule 125 with those Zoo Med supplements should be noticeable week-by-week. I don't know any other problem that could cause gait problems like we see. HOWEVER, you may wish to confirm her problem with an Exotics vet. In addition to the visit he/she might order a radiograph (x-ray) to determine bone density. Maybe the vet would be confident enough of his hands-on exam.

    It bears repeating: At this time powdered supplements are much more of a for sure thing than trials attempting to find the correct UVB/supplement blend -- especially because Asia is used to hiding from bright lighting. I think it's much more important to address her MBD first.

    To find an exotics vet near you: https://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661

    Some vets like to recommend UVB; sometimes without many specifics.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Hi Digs ~

    Have you also seen my replies #34 and #36 on this thread? Please check post numbers in the upper right hand corner.

    Do you recall what Asia's gait looked like 7 months ago? Were you using Schedule 124 at that time? With which brand supplements? I ask especially because Repashy's Calcium Plus contains significantly less calcium than does Reptivite and Repti Calcium.

    Asia's gradual improvement from early stage MBD on Schedule 125 with those Zoo Med supplements should be noticeable week-by-week. I don't know any other problem that could cause gait problems like we see. HOWEVER, you may wish to confirm her problem with an Exotics vet. In addition to the visit he/she might order a radiograph (x-ray) to determine bone density. Maybe the vet would be confident enough of his hands-on exam.

    It bears repeating: At this time powdered supplements are much more of a for sure thing than trials attempting to find the correct UVB/supplement blend -- especially because Asia is used to hiding from bright lighting. I think it's much more important to address her MBD first.

    To find an exotics vet near you: https://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661

    Some vets like to recommend UVB; sometimes without many specifics.
    I have seen them. I just waited till I was back home and on my computer as I find it easier to type than a phone . I use the zoomed Under tank heater for 30-40 gallon tanks (12"X8"). I don't need UVB, I just got it because I heard that there was benefits to it. I just gave Asia some dubia roaches dusted with pure calcium a couple of hours ago.
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    Asia is 5 years old. I'm saying this because based off your post you seem to believe she's still a juvenile. I didn't have the Repashy calcium plus schedule from Geckos unlimited. I would just dust her food every other feeding a year ago. Bad idea I know . When I first got Asia I was using Rep-Cal because my breeder recommended it to me. Then my breeder informed me that she switched to Repashy calcium plus for all her geckos and so I just bought that next.
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