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    Which brand supplements did Aurora get at her breeders?

    Here's the scoop on Repashy's Calcium Plus multivitamins.

    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Hmmmm the only problem with repashy calcium plus is it has D3 in it and she has a UVB light so it might be to much D3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    Hmmmm the only problem with repashy calcium plus is it has D3 in it and she has a UVB light so it might be to much D3.
    Even with UVB, Frances Baines DVM (& Reptile Lighting group's admin) recommends a backup D3 dose at 1-2 feedings per month. Have you see that notification on all my UVB schedules 154, 155, & 156?

    Is it only Zoo Med's Reptivite multivitamins Aurora does not like? How about Zoo Med's Repti Calcium without D3 (plain calcium)?

    Vitamin D3 has a wide margin of safety. Repashy's Calcium Plus = LOW D3.

    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    She is perfectly fine with calcium just not multi vitamins and she is very picky about what she will eat only meal worms and super worms about the size of meal worms she completely ignores crickets roaches and BSFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    She is perfectly fine with calcium just not multi vitamins and she is very picky about what she will eat only meal worms and super worms about the size of meal worms she completely ignores crickets roaches and BSFL.
    Have you been giving Iggy 1-2 backup doses of D3 calcium per month all the while he's had UVB?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Yup iggy isnt picky he eats anything i give him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    Hmmmm the only problem with repashy calcium plus is it has D3 in it and she has a UVB light so it might be to much D3.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    She is perfectly fine with calcium just not multi vitamins and she is very picky about what she will eat only meal worms and super worms about the size of meal worms she completely ignores crickets roaches and BSFL.
    Years ago a gecko person "in-the-know" gave me 2 thumbs up for Zoo Med products. I only maybe had a problem using Zoo Med Reptivite withOUT D3 for 2 northern velvet geckos. Maybe a small head bump that began to grow on each of those geckos was caused by Reptivite??? I'm not really sure. After that happened I didn't use Reptivite for Oedura castelnaui any longer.

    Sticky Tongue Farms makes supplements that may work that contain NO D3: Miner-All Outdoor (no D3) & Vit-ALL. For some reason I see Miner-ALL Indoor listed on the right hand side of Miner-ALL Outdoor product specs???

    My Seattle friend alternates between Miner-ALL Indoor & Miner-ALL Outdoor for all her geckos, BUT she doesn't keep leopard geckos. She says she tends to dust maybe every few feedings. She tells me that she does NOT use Vit-ALL at all. She gutloads with bug burger & fresh organic fruits and veg for the bugs themselves.

    Sticky Tongue Farms:
    Vit-All Vitamin Gut Load
    "After years of herpetologists and breeders raving about how well Miner-all works, the demand for a comparable vitamin formula to use with it has been met. Vit-All is an exceptional insect and rodent gut-load for a litany of scientific reasons.

    "Through extensive research and development, we discovered that dusting vitamins onto prey insects or rodents isn't fully effective because several essential ingredients, such as beta carotene, don't work well in a dust form. The beadlet required to keep beta carotene stable when exposed to oxygen is far too large to stick to any feeder prey.

    "We also learned that many species of reptile are sensitive to excess amount of synthetic vitamin A, something commonly found in most other reptile vitamin supplements.

    "Additionally we also learned that vitamins and minerals, when packaged together, degrade each other over a short period of time.

    "Therefore, we package Vit-All and Miner-All separately to preserve the integrity of both products. We created Vit-All as a separate product to work with Miner-All in forming an extremely effective diet supplementation regiment.

    "Vit-All was developed after tremendous research into the vitamins and amino acids essential to the well being of all reptiles and amphibians. Interestingly, we discovered that the best delivery method was to use Vit-All as a gut-load for feeder insects and rodents, not as a dusting.

    "Feeder insects raised in captivity are essentially sterile and of reduced nutritional value. This is where Vit-All saves the day!

    "Feeder prey, both insects and rodents, relish the fresh ingredients in Vit-All. You'll likely even see crickets frothing at the mouth while they consume it...literally.

    "The key is that vitamins consumed from a dusted prey item are not nearly as absorbable as vitamins consumed from eating a prey item that consumed the vitamins ahead of time. Did you follow that? It's an amazing concept.

    "In order to get a natural source of Vitamin A, the beta carotene in Vit-All is freshly activated for 24 hours due to the unique addition of water to melt the lipid (fat cell) off the beta carotene beadlet that preserves its freshness.

    "Beta carotene builds immunity, and is a powerful antioxidant that improves immune function and promotes mucous membrane health which helps reduce upper respiratory infections.

    "In fact, dietary intake of beta carotene can enhance cell-mediated immune responses. Gut loading insects and rodents is the best way to introduce the proper amount of vitamins to all reptiles and amphibians.

    "For a balanced diet, Vit-All is recommended for use in combination with our Miner-All calcium and mineral powder."
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 11-14-2020 at 03:47 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Link #24---Calcium powders WITH D3: Zoo Med, Rep-Cal, Fluker, Exo Terra, + others

    I shortened link 24 just to compare vitamin D3 levels in Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3, Repashy's (all-in-one) Calcium Plus multivitamins, & Sticky Tongue Farms' Miner-ALL Indoor supplement.

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    Zoo Med Repti Calcium with vitamin D3---phosphorus-free ***Highly RECOMMENDED***
    38%-43% precipitated calcium carbonate
    Vitamin D3: 22,907 IU/kg, 10,390 IU/pound

    Zoo Med Repti Calcium with D3 Reptile supplement is a phosphorus-free calcium supplement for reptiles and amphibians. We use only precipitated calcium carbonate which is white in color and is essentially lead free. Pure calcium carbonate is white, not gray. Impurities in other sources of calcium carbonate (e.g. oyster shell calcium) cause the supplement to appear gray. The calcium carbonate particles in Repti Calcium have a unique shape, and an extremely high surface area per gram, resulting in increased calcium bioavailability. With Repti Calcium, you can take comfort in knowing that your reptiles are getting a highly bioavailable source of calcium carbonate that is free of harmful impurities. Reptiles maintained indoors may benefit from supplemental vitamin D3 in their diet. Our formula contains safe levels of vitamin D3 when used as prescribed.

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    Repashy's Calcium Plus (all-in-one) multivitamins

    INGREDIENTS:
    Calcium Carbonate, Dried Kelp, Dried Brewer’s Yeast, RoseHips, Calendula Flower, Marigold Flower, Paprika, Hibiscus Flower, Algae Meal, Turmeric, Rosemary Extract, Natural Fruit Flavor, Magnesium Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Methionine Hydroxy Analogue Chelate, Manganese Methionine Hydroxy Analogue Chelate, Copper Methionine Hydroxy Analogue Chelate, Selenium Yeast. Vitamins: (Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Calcium L-Ascorbyl-2-Monophosphate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Beta Carotene, Pantothenic Acid, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B-12 Supplement).

    GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
    • Crude Protein min. .2%
    • Crude Fat min. .2%
    • Crude Fiber max. 4%
    • Moisture max. 8%
    • Calcium min. 17%
    • Vitamin A min. 200,000 IU/lb
    • Vitamin D min. 20,000 IU/lb
    • Vitamin E min. 2,000 IU/lb

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    Sticky Tongue Farm's Miner-All Indoor calcium/mineral supplement with vitamin D3
    vitamin D3: 4,400 IU/kg

    INGREDIENTS:
    Calcium Carbonate, Dextrose, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Magnesium Oxide, D-Activated Animal Sterol (source of Vitamin D-3 Miner-All Indoor only), Iron Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Ethyione Diamine Dihydriod ide,Cobalt Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Iron Oxide, Natural Berry flavors

    TRACE ELEMENTS (from aquatic naturally grown aquatic vegetation):
    Sulfur, Aluminum, Silicon, Copper, Bromine, Barium, Tellurium, Yttrium, Sodium, Lanthanum, Uranium, Neodymium, 44 Cerium, Titanium, Vanadium, Niobium, Dysporosium, Gadolinium, Erbium, Ytterbium, Germinium, Praseodymium, Samarium, Thallium, Scandium, Rubidium, Nickel, Holmium, Tin, Thorium, Europium, Terbium, Palladium, Gallium, Chromium, Lutecium, Thulium, Tungsten, Antimony, Cesium, Bismuth, Rhodium, Tantalum, Rhenium, Osmium, Iridium.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 11-14-2020 at 03:54 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutler View Post
    She is perfectly fine with calcium just not multi vitamins and she is very picky about what she will eat only meal worms and super worms about the size of meal worms she completely ignores crickets roaches and BSFL.
    Did you ask Aurora's breeder what supplements she had before you got her?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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