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    My 4 year old leopard gecko, Olive, has been brumating since mid-november. I did not prompt this, she did this on her own. I had to move her tank down one shelf, as she is closer to the floor, her ambient air temp is a degree or two cooler. She still has her warm hide ground temp at 85-90 degrees fahrenheit. She has not lost any weight during this time and I have not fed her. She did her last poop in November and she hasn't poop since. I didn't want her to have food rot in her as she's getting no belly heat to digest. She has just been chilling in her cold hide. Last week I tempted her with a cricket and she seemed interested in it, before she was about to strike I took it away. I felt bad for teasing her but I wanted to see if she had her appetite back, it seems she may but she is still only in her cold hide. I don't want to begin feeding her again until she's in her warm hide and showing signs of exiting brumation.

    Is there anything I need to do to stop it? Will she just stop brumating on her own?

    Thanks!

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    Apparently Olive is hungry. Can you increase her warm hide ground temp to 88-92*F? 85-87*F is a bit low.

    What type thermometer do you use to check that temp?
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    Yeah, I can increase it to that. She has just been avoiding her warm hide completely though. The heat pad is hooked up to a thermostat, I also have a laser temp gun that I use and they are typically within one sometimes two degrees of each other. I have the thermostat set at 88 degrees and it fluctuates between 85 to 90/91 as it turns its self on and off. Im hesitant to turn it up though as I'm nervous it will fluctuate too hot on the higher end.

    My other geckos tank is set to 87 and it fluctuates according to the thermostat at 84-88 but when I use the temp gun it reads up to 91 when the thermostat only says 88 (my gecko does tend to lay on the thermostat probe though). I want to raise his thermostat too but I'm afraid it will burn him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose23 View Post
    Yeah, I can increase it to that. She has just been avoiding her warm hide completely though. The heat pad is hooked up to a thermostat, I also have a laser temp gun that I use and they are typically within one sometimes two degrees of each other. I have the thermostat set at 88 degrees and it fluctuates between 85 to 90/91 as it turns its self on and off. Im hesitant to turn it up though as I'm nervous it will fluctuate too hot on the higher end.

    My other geckos tank is set to 87 and it fluctuates according to the thermostat at 84-88 but when I use the temp gun it reads up to 91 when the thermostat only says 88 (my gecko does tend to lay on the thermostat probe though). I want to raise his thermostat too but I'm afraid it will burn him.
    What type thermostat do you have?

    Bump the thermostat setting from 88*F to 89*F. See what happens. If nothing changes, try setting the thermostat at 90*F. 93*F isn't anything to worry about. Generally I recommend setting thermostats at 91*F.

    Maybe if Olive ate just 1 cricket she'd return to her warm hide to digest it. If Olive finds the warm end too hot, she will retreat to the cool end.

    Is your other gecko also a leo? Is he/she eating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    What type thermostat do you have?

    Bump the thermostat setting from 88*F to 89*F. See what happens. If nothing changes, try setting the thermostat at 90*F. 93*F isn't anything to worry about. Generally I recommend setting thermostats at 91*F.

    Maybe if Olive ate just 1 cricket she'd return to her warm hide to digest it. If Olive finds the warm end too hot, she will retreat to the cool end.

    Is your other gecko also a leo? Is he/she eating?
    Okay, I bumped it up to 89 and it fluctuates between 87-91ish . Should I give her a cricket? I’m really worried she won’t digest it and it’ll rot in her digestive tract.

    Yes, he’s a leo. I use ipower thermostats for all my leopard geckos. He’s eating, he loves his food. Even just lifting up the cricket container makes him run to the glass and peer out and wait for food. He’s also pooping regularly and normally. I was going to maybe reposition the thermostats temp probe to see if that helps measure the temp a bit better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose23 View Post
    Okay, I bumped it up to 89 and it fluctuates between 87-91ish . Should I give her a cricket? I’m really worried she won’t digest it and it’ll rot in her digestive tract.

    Yes, he’s a leo. I use ipower thermostats for all my leopard geckos. He’s eating, he loves his food. Even just lifting up the cricket container makes him run to the glass and peer out and wait for food. He’s also pooping regularly and normally. I was going to maybe reposition the thermostats temp probe to see if that helps measure the temp a bit better.
    Repositioning that probe is a good idea.

    Try bumping up the thermostat again, this time to 90*F. What's the range now?
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 02-09-2020 at 11:00 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Repositioning that probe is a good idea.

    Try bumping up the thermostat again, this time to 90*F. What's the range now?
    I bumped it up to 90*F and it fluctuates between 88-93/94*F in some spots.
    I repositioned the other probe but wherever I put it my gecko seems to lay on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose23 View Post
    I bumped it up to 90*F and it fluctuates between 88-93/94*F in some spots.
    I repositioned the other probe but wherever I put it my gecko seems to lay on it.
    Thanks.

    Plan A:
    1. Reset Olive's i-power thermostat to 89*F.
    2. When the temps have evened out, see whether Olive will eat a cricket.
    3. IF she does eat one, try moving her to her warm dry hide.
    4. As long as she has no problems walking she should be able to leave her warm dry hide, if she feels uncomfortable.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Thanks.

    Plan A:
    1. Reset Olive's i-power thermostat to 89*F.
    2. When the temps have evened out, see whether Olive will eat a cricket.
    3. IF she does eat one, try moving her to her warm dry hide.
    4. As long as she has no problems walking she should be able to leave her warm dry hide, if she feels uncomfortable.
    Okay, sounds good! Will her eating hopefully get her to stop brumating?
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose23 View Post
    Okay, sounds good! Will her eating hopefully get her to stop brumating?
    Thanks!
    I hope so.
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