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    Iím new to the gecko community and just got my first baby a few days ago. I bought a starter kit (which I know isnít the best) but heís still young and has everything he needs. I just got his heating pad in the mail and was wondering if itís okay for his tank. The only substrate I have at the moment is a ďcarpetĒ that came with the starter kit, along with some sphagnum moss for his wet hide. Will it be okay for me to set the heating pad to 80į (with a thermostat) with a uvb light above his tank as well. Or will the fact that itís just a carpet between the glass, burn him??? I donít want to hurt him, and heís still getting used to his tank. I just want to get him sufficient heating because at the moment Iím just using a heating bulb that I have to turn off at night so itís dark. And I know heís not getting enough heat because heís not active and doesnít come out much to eat. I have to bring the food to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfblood View Post
    I’m new to the gecko community and just got my first baby a few days ago. I bought a starter kit (which I know isn’t the best) but he’s still young and has everything he needs. I just got his heating pad in the mail and was wondering if it’s okay for his tank. The only substrate I have at the moment is a “carpet” that came with the starter kit, along with some sphagnum moss for his wet hide. Will it be okay for me to set the heating pad to 80į (with a thermostat) with a uvb light above his tank as well. Or will the fact that it’s just a carpet between the glass, burn him??? I don’t want to hurt him, and he’s still getting used to his tank. I just want to get him sufficient heating because at the moment I’m just using a heating bulb that I have to turn off at night so it’s dark. And I know he’s not getting enough heat because he’s not active and doesn’t come out much to eat. I have to bring the food to him.
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited, Wolfblood and your leo!

    Please don't use UVB if you only have a 10 gallon enclosure! UVB lighting can be harmful to your leo's vision when not used precisely!

    Providing any UVB for a gecko is a bit of a science. If your leo's enclosure is a 10 gallon for now, I strongly recommend not using UVB until he has at least a 20 long. That's 30 x 12 x 12 inches tall.

    Is there some chance you can return the starter kit? Within months your leo will need a larger home. A 20 long could last a leo for his entire life. Some lucky leos live into their 20s.

    • What type thermometer do you have: analog (circle), digital, other?
    • What size is your leo's enclosure?
    • What dimensions is his new heat pad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited, Wolfblood and your leo!

    Please don't use UVB if you only have a 10 gallon enclosure! UVB lighting can be harmful to your leo's vision when not used precisely!

    Providing any UVB for a gecko is a bit of a science. If your leo's enclosure is a 10 gallon for now, I strongly recommending not using UVB until he has at least a 20 long. That's 30 x 12 x 12 inches tall.

    Is there some chance you can return the starter kit? Within months your leo will need a larger home. A 20 long could last a leo for his entire life. Some lucky leos live into their 20s.

    • What type thermometer do you have: analog (circle), digital, other?
    • What size is your leo's enclosure?
    • What dimensions is his new heat pad?

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    Iím new to this website as well so Iím not completely sure how to respond back or If Iím doing it right but hopefully I am. I put a picture with the exact starter kit I got him. Itís a 20 gallon tank, I believe that they are analog thermometers (also shown in the picture) and the dimensions of the heating pad are 8x12 inches 16 watt. Itís a Ipower reptile heating pad, I also bought the IPower thermostat to go with it. Right now Iím trying to install the heating pad on the bottom of the tank, so Iím trying to pick him up so I can move him to a safer container while I move the tank to put on the heating pad. But he wonít move off his sun bathing rock which is against the edge of the tank and I donít want to spook him so bad that he drops his tail. Any advice?
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    You're welcome. I see your post. Thanks. Did you click on the care sheet I shared?

    Just scoop up your leo gently to move him.

    • Is that enclosure a 20 long: 30 x 12 x 12 inches tall? Just confirming.
    • Is your "sun bathing rock" a heat rock?

    Analog thermometers (circle) generally only show ballpark temps. Please buy a Zoo Med's yellow digital thermometer with a probe (~$10).

    An 8 x 12 inch 16 watt Ipower reptile heating pad is inadequate for a 20 long enclosure. An 8 x 12 mat sorta covers 1/4 of the 30 inch ground. Your leo needs a heat mat that covers 1/2 the ground. The rest of the floor (cool end) will match the room temperature where your leo's enclosure sits. The heat mat should be large enough for both the warm dry hide and the warm humid hide.

    Can you purchase an 11 x 17 inch Ultratherm heat mat instead? Hopefully you can return products that don't meet your leo's needs. Your Ipower thermostat will probably be fine. IF you use both a heat mat and overhead heating you'll need 2 thermostats.

    For your 20 long the best (only) UVB light source is Zoo Med's Reptisun 10.0 UVB mini-compact fluorescent bulb. Place that exact bulb in an 8.5 inch diameter reflective dome fixture (Fluker's ?) directly above the warm end. Time the UVB ON from about 7:30 AM - 7:00 PM. However, nearly 12 hours ON may be excessive. Please contact Zoo Med to find out how often those bulbs need replacing.

    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C).

    Place the thermostat's probe and a digital thermometer's probe together right on top of the substrate underneath the warm dry hide. If you use a UTH + a CHE you'll need 2 separate thermostats, because ground and air temperatures are substantially different.

    • Warm dry hide ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) inside a leo's warm dry hide.
    • Warm humid/moist hide: Also place the humid hide 100% on top of the heat mat. Keep temperatures similar to the warm dry hide.
    • Cool dry hide ground temperature: 70ish-75 F (21.1-23.9 C) Usually the cool end ground temperature matches the room temperature where the enclosure sits.
    • no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the warm end
    • no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. If you wish, during the night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 03-21-2020 at 12:52 PM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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