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    Question Opinions on this Turtle Tank 20gal for my Leopard Gecko


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    Hello! I'm looking for advice on whether or not to purchase a turtle tank kit for my leopard gecko.

    I'm upgrading my 6-month-old quarantined leopard gecko from his ~10gal Rubbermaid tub to a 20gal. While comparing prices on Amazon, I found an amazingly cheap 20gal tank turtle kit.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...DKIKX0DER&th=1

    Now, I don't know anything about turtles, and from general opinions on pet kits, I'm going to assume this kit isn't really suitable for a turtle's whole life, especially because the supplies are most definitely cheaply made. However, I think ~$100 is a fantastic price for a 20gal, whereas other sellers might charge more than $150. Not to forget, it comes with three decorative pieces I can use!

    So, would you reccomend I purchase this? Or should I play it safe and purchase a 20gal from another source?



    ... Also, I want to try a deep heat projector and UVB bulb rather than an under-tank heater and calcium supplements. I've done my fair bit of research but I'm still having trouble understanding what kind of bulbs they need and how far away it should be from their "basking" spot. If I use this specific tank, would anyone be able to let me know what kind of DHP and UVB I should get and where to position it? FYI, I plan on purchasing some slate to retain heat, if that helps.

    Thanks so much!

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    Do you live near a PetCo? Every so often they have $-per-gallon sales, so a 20 long (30 x 12 x 12) = $20.

    I strongly suggest NOT buying any kit. Some stuff really does not meet a leopard gecko's needs.

    What supplements are you using right now? Please list brand, exact name, & frequency.

    You could use a 50 watt DHP.

    You will need:
    • 20 long enclosure: 30 x 12 x 12 inches tall
    • + Zoo Med's ReptiSun UVB 10.0 mini-compact fluorescent bulb
    • + UVB bulb perpendicular to enclosure over the warm end
    • + 8.5 inch diameter shallow dome fixture for the UVB bulb
    • + a heat mat (11 x 17 inches)

    Click this link for just about custom-sized slate for a 20 long enclosure: 163 click: Slate Cheese Trays 16 x 12 x 0.3 inch for Leo Substrate . . . . . . Gutler -- March 2020
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    Wow, I had no idea PetCo offered that! There's actually a store only a mile away and when I checked the website, the sale is going on right now. I think I'll be able to pick up a 20 long tomorrow. Thank you so much for pointing this out to me!

    Right now, I'm supplementing with Zoo Med Repti Calcium without D3 and Repti Calcium with D3, and I also use Rep-Cal Herptivite Multivitamins. I've been following the weekly schedule for leopard geckos under a year that was posted to this site: calcium with D3 on Monday, calcium on Wednesday, and multivitamins on Friday.

    I have a couple of questions about the DHP, if you are able to answer. Should I get a specific dome, like with the UVB? Do I need to be cautious of the distance between the DHP and the basking spot? Will a mesh screen lid obstruct heat?

    As for the UVB, I believe I still have to supplement calcium every so often. What would you recommend, between the calcium, the calcium with D3, and the multivitamins?

    Thank you for your help, I appreciate it very much!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeromimo View Post
    Wow, I had no idea PetCo offered that! There's actually a store only a mile away and when I checked the website, the sale is going on right now. I think I'll be able to pick up a 20 long tomorrow. Thank you so much for pointing this out to me!

    Right now, I'm supplementing with Zoo Med Repti Calcium without D3 and Repti Calcium with D3, and I also use Rep-Cal Herptivite Multivitamins. I've been following the weekly schedule for leopard geckos under a year that was posted to this site: calcium with D3 on Monday, calcium on Wednesday, and multivitamins on Friday.

    I have a couple of questions about the DHP, if you are able to answer. Should I get a specific dome, like with the UVB? Do I need to be cautious of the distance between the DHP and the basking spot? Will a mesh screen lid obstruct heat?

    As for the UVB, I believe I still have to supplement calcium every so often. What would you recommend, between the calcium, the calcium with D3, and the multivitamins?

    Thank you for your help, I appreciate it very much!
    You're most welcome!

    A mesh screen will not obstruct heat. Once your leo is absorbing UVB on a regular basis, switch to Schedule 155. Supplement with your multivitamin withOUT D3 1x per week and Zoo Med's Repti Calcium withOUT D3 2x per week. At one feeding per month lightly dust the bugs and worms with Zoo Med's Repti Calcium with D3. That's a backup D3 dose.

    For your DHP questions I'll mention @Marillion. He uses both a 50 watt DHP and UVB. He could share with you what he uses for bulb fixtures. Here are some other resources.
    Light Your Reptiles in the USA for Arcadia's lighting including ShadeDweller lighting: 207-588-7210 LightYourReptiles.com

    For link 161 click: Arcadia Reptile's Deep Heat Projector . . . . . . British Lady LeopardGecko -- June 2019

    An In-Depth Look At UV Light And Its Proper Use With Reptiles . . . . . . Dr. Francis M. Baines -- January/February 2017
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    I was just recently in correspondence with Dr. Fran Baines about the adequacy of using the Zoo Med Repti Sun 10.0 Mini Compact bulb in a 20 long enclosure with an 8.5" dome reflector with a white coating. Dr. Baines, based on recent testing feels that this setup for UVB may not offer quite adequate Vitamin D3 levels in and of itself. I myself have been supplementing with Zoo med calcium with D3 one to two times a month. My gecko has not exhibited any signs of disease after just over one year. However, I should add that my feeder insects have an exceedingly "good" diet that may have been making up for some of the shortcomings of not enough D3.

    I feed my crickets and mealworms ground up ADULT Bearded Dragon pellets (powdered) as well as slices of zucchini and carrots, the crickets also get Repashy Bug Burger and Flukers Cricket quencher with calcium (replaced often so it does not dry out.) Dr. Baines recommends that when it comes time to replace my Zoo Med 10.0 Mini bulb that I should possibly switch to the Arcadia Shade Dweller 7.0 UVB bulb with 12" long enclosure to better ensure UVB dispersal to my gecko through the mesh screen and the distance I am dealing with in the enclosure (10"-11" basking site from UVB bulb.)

    For my DHP (Deep Heat Projector) bulb, I use a Zilla 8.5" dome with white coating inside and it is on a thermostat that allows me to control two separate settings. One for daytime and one for night time. I hope that helps.
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    I also use ground up Zoo Med's Natural ADULT Bearded Dragon Food for all my geckos' insects and for worm beddings too. That's the product that's been working well for me and that I recommend to others. Each beardie food is somewhat different.

    I bought a large Krups coffee grinder especially for that purpose.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
    You find at the beach
    Follow you home"

    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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