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    Hello everyone my name is Haley! I recently purchased a leopard gecko on Sunday and just had some general question.

    1) what is the best humidity level in a leopard gecko tank?

    2) how can I get the humidity level down?

    3) do you have to mist both hides or just one?

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    Welcome! The following is my opinion, based on 17 years of leopard gecko keeping and 13 years of breeding. Others may have a different opinion:
    humidity: leopard geckos are said to come from a low humidity, arid environment. However, they may spend a lot of time in caves and crevices where there could be more humid micro climates (that's part of the reason a humid hide is recommended). I live in New England without AC in the summer. In the winter it's very dry due to forced hot air heat. It's so dry that we run humidifiers so my husband doesn't get nosebleeds. In the summer it can sometimes be exceedingly humid (and I don't use any dehumidifier). My leopard geckos have always been fine either way and I don't measure or worry about humidity

    2. Misting hides: the idea with the hides is to give the gecko a variety of choices of open space, hides, warm areas and cool areas, humidity so it can self regulate. Consequently it's best to choose one hide to be the humid hide and to mist that one and not to mist the other ones.

    Feel free to ask more questions as they occur.

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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited, Haley! What size enclosure does your leo have now?

    What type hygrometer do you have? Digital hygrometers are more accurate than analog (circle) hygrometers. Analog ones basically give "ball park" figures.

    Keep just 1 hide humid (and warm).

    I recommend 40-60% relative humidity in general for your leo's enclosure. It's important to keep the warm humid hide higher. Leos use that hide especially for shedding and for staying hydrated. It's easy for a leo to have incomplete sheds without such access.

    IF one keeps close watch, it's possible to have successful sheds by just upping the humidity when shedding is about to happen.

    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C).

    Place the thermostat's probe and a digital thermometer's probe together right on top of the substrate underneath the warm dry hide. If you use a UTH + a CHE you'll need 2 separate thermostats, because ground and air temperatures are substantially different.

    • Warm dry hide ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) inside a leo's warm dry hide.
    • Warm humid/moist hide: Also place the humid hide 100% on top of the heat mat. Keep temperatures similar to the warm dry hide.
    • Cool dry hide ground temperature: 70ish-75 F (21.1-23.9 C) Usually the cool end ground temperature matches the room temperature where the enclosure sits.
    • no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the warm end
    • no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. If you wish, during the night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).
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    Hi Haley ~

    Every enclosure should have a thermostat. iPower thermostats are good. Whatever thermostat you buy for your leo's 10 gallon, you'll be able to use when you upgrade enclosures.

    Did you see my post 3 above regarding temperatures?

    Let's continue husbandry related discussions right here. This thread is in the Husbandry, Housing, & Heating subforum, so you're good to go.
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    On your PM you mention that your leo's temps inside her only warm hide = 76.5 and that you have a ~6 x ~8 inch heat mat. That heat mat is probably defective. What brand is it? Was it brand new?

    76.5 is way too low for your leo to digest her bugs and worms. Your leo needs 88-92 F under that hide to digest her meals. It's vital to correct this problem immediately!

    What do her poops look like?

    Please post a picture of Nina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    On your PM you mention that your leo's temps inside her only warm hide = 76.5 and that you have a ~6 x ~8 inch heat mat. That heat mat is probably defective. What brand is it? Was it brand new?

    76.5 is way too low for your leo to digest her bugs and worms. Your leo needs 88-92 F under that hide to digest her meals. It's vital to correct this problem immediately!

    What do her poops look like?

    Please post a picture of Nina.
    The heat mat is a Thrive brand. I bought it brand new. Her poop looks normal it is small brown with a white blob next to it. She eats so good at night when we feed her and is responsive. Attachment 48826 Image (7).jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nina2020 View Post
    The heat mat is a Thrive brand. I bought it brand new. Her poop looks normal it is small brown with a white blob next to it. She eats so good at night when we feed her and is responsive. Attachment 48826 Image (7).jpg
    SO i just used the infared thermometer and the floor temp on her hot side is 80 and on the cool side its 77.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nina2020 View Post
    The heat mat is a Thrive brand. I bought it brand new. Her poop looks normal it is small brown with a white blob next to it. She eats so good at night when we feed her and is responsive. Attachment 48826 Image (7).jpg
    Quote Originally Posted by Nina2020 View Post
    SO i just used the infared thermometer and the floor temp on her hot side is 80 and on the cool side its 77.
    Your leo is a cutie! She looks good. She seems to be digesting her food by your poop description.

    So more troubleshooting on ground temperatures, NOT air temperatures.
    1. Have you a thermostat in your home that is set for maybe 70*F? What is it set for? After it has been ON for about 1 hour, measure something right next to it. Your infrared thermometer should read the same temperature as the room thermostat where you live.

    2. Are you able to scroll back on threads to see earlier posts?

    3. Please contact the place where you bought your Thrive heat mat. Something is wrong. There should be about a 17*F difference between your cool end and your warm end, just like this chart shows. Cool end = 73*; warm end = 90*.

    4. There should be 3 hides: warm dry, warm humid, and cool dry. Here's an easy humid hide you can make. Fill it with sphagnum moss. Spray the moss.

    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C).

    Place the thermostat's probe and a digital thermometer's probe togehumther right on top of the substrate underneath the warm dry hide. If you use a UTH + a CHE you'll need 2 separate thermostats, because ground and air temperatures are substantially different.

    • Warm dry hide ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) inside a leo's warm dry hide.
    • Warm humid/moist hide: Also place the humid hide 100% on top of the heat mat. Keep temperatures similar to the warm dry hide.
    • Cool dry hide ground temperature: 70ish-75 F (21.1-23.9 C) Usually the cool end ground temperature matches the room temperature where the enclosure sits.
    • no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the warm end
    • no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. If you wish, during the night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 04-29-2020 at 01:09 AM.
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    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Your leo is a cutie! She looks good. She seems to be digesting her food by your poop description.

    So more troubleshooting on ground temperatures, NOT air temperatures.
    1. Have you a thermostat in your home that is set for maybe 70*F? What is it set for? After it has been ON for about 1 hour, measure something right next to it. Your infrared thermometer should read the same temperature as the room thermostat where you live.

    2. Are you able to scroll back on threads to see earlier posts?

    3. Please contact the place where you bought your Thrive heat mat. Something is wrong. There should be about a 17*F difference between your cool end and your warm end, just like this chart shows. Cool end = 73*; warm end = 90*.

    4. There should be 3 hides: warm dry, warm humid, and cool dry. Here's an easy humid hide you can make.

    I sent you a PM just a second ago but the heat is off in the house. I pointed the infarred thermometer at a picture on the wall next to the thermostat and its reading different from what is on the thermostat. Now the door is open in the house if that would affect anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nina2020 View Post
    I sent you a PM just a second ago but the heat is off in the house. I pointed the infarred thermometer at a picture on the wall next to the thermostat and its reading different from what is on the thermostat. Now the door is open in the house if that would affect anything?
    Are you and your leo OK? I haven't heard from you today.

    What would he the best thing to do during the day?
    For your leo in the 10 gallon enclosure:
    1. Turn the heat mat ON in the morning. Then watch the temps like a hawk! Don't let the temperature climb over 90*F.
    2. Be sure Nina has fresh water all the time.
    3. If you need to leave home for a while during the day, turn OFF the heat mat before you leave. I would not wish for you to return to find Nina no longer alive.
    4. Once your Hydrofarm Jump Start thermostat arrives on MAY 9th, set the maximum temp for 90*F. See how that goes. You may wish to set the maximum temp for 91*F instead.
    5. What are your plans for your leo when you return to work?
    6. Can you overnight ship your Hydrofarm Jump Start thermostat?
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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