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    Hi. I need help with my set up.

    I purchased a baby leopard gecko today (think itís a snow one). I wasnít planning on getting a baby so my set up was prepped for an adult. Attached is a pic of my cage (I am planning on adding some more decor). Itís an 18x18x20 open front terrarium. I have 3 hides. The heat pad is under the pyramid but I only got a 7x4 one ... which I know realize may be a tad small. The teal hide next to it is going to be the wet one. I just havenít put the moss in yet. The black one behind the plant is the cold hide.

    this all got assembled today so the temp may heat up a bit but itís currently only 70 degrees based on the thermometer on the side and the humidity is 40%. I have the thing about 6Ē up right by the moist hide ... is the right spot for it?

    I want to get a light because the room itís in isnít the brightest and I want something to set the day/night cycle. But since my UTH is on the smaller side and because the tank is high I think I should have a light to add some heat. But Iíve been researching all night and there are so many options. What is the best light for doing day/night cycle plus some heat? I donít really want multiple different bulbs. I need some guidance!

    Also considered getting another small heat pad to increase the heated 4D55CBD7-6E7D-4DAB-A5F6-9BA23CC7135B.jpg87FEA851-61A4-42FB-BAF5-59E6196CE7F9.jpg29807C89-92B0-405E-ACD7-32F2C773B9D3.jpgarea but donít know if this is necessary if I will have a light in there.

    Is there anything I should watch out of need to know about having a baby gecko? I was prepared for an older one. Itís about 4.5-5Ē now.

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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited!

    It’s an 18x18x20 open front terrarium.
    "18 x 18 x 20" dimensions aren't adequate for a leopard gecko. Leos require warm and cool ends. Leos will be perfectly happy with a 12 inch high home. It will be difficult to adequately heat a 20 inch high enclosure for a leo.
    1. Please get a 20 long (30 x 12 x 12 inches high) or a 36 x 18 x 12 Exo Terra. PetCo frequently has $1-per-gallon sales on 20 longs.
    2. Then order an Ultratherm 11 x 17 inch heat mat with a thermostat. Reptile Basics: (336-308-5767) also carries Ultratherm heat mats [11 x 17 inches = $22.] If you get a the larger enclosure, you'll need two 11 x 17s + an Inkbird thermostat which accepts 2 devices.

    Please view this video as an intro. We can help with further details.

    To view click "Leopard Gecko Setup" in the upper left corner, not the arrow:
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    Ahh i see some stuff from stroodies in its tank.
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    Default Baby gecko poop questions

    I picked up a baby yesterday late afternoon. I did not feed it yesterday (because I wasnít sure what the store had given it). In the morning I found a small dry white/black chalky ball in the cage (bottom circle in poop pic). This morning I fed it 2 small wax worms, around 7 am, which it ate instantly. Somewhere around 3-5pm there was deposit in the cage (Top circle in pic). It looks possible the wax works regurgitated and then a semi poop looking blob that looks like it has a cricket in it - which I did not feed it.

    Is this normal? Is this all poop or poop and some regurgitated stuff?

    Iím still trying to keep a consistent temp and find the sweet spot and Iím waiting on my UTH thermostat to arrive. So Iíve just been taking temps with my laser gun and turning the pad on/off manually. But there is a cool and warm area/hide.

    Just want to know what I should be looking for. What normal poop looks like and at what point I should worry.
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    May I ask what you think?

    A 7 x 4 inch heat mat is inadequate for a leo even in an 18 x 18 x 20. Your leo needs a heat mat that's 1/2 the enclosure's ground area. That = 9 x 18 inches.

    Please check out Ultratherm heat mats or heat tape. The Bean Farm carries Ultratherm's in 11 different sizes.
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    I purchased a larger heat mat today so now almost half is covered. I’m still waiting on my thermostat to arrive (so I’ve just been manually turning the pads on and off). I am checking the temps with a temp gun. The cool side is staying cool and warm side is warm. I am going to add some light for day/night adjustments and to warm to ambient air up a bit ... just still figuring out what set up/bulbs I want to use (there are so many options!)

    Thoughts on lighting? I have read a lot about UVA and UVB. Some say it’s not needed, some say it’s good for them. Was thinking of getting a dual dome with a day light/warming bulb and a uvb bulb. Both would be on a timer and turned off at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rml7881 View Post
    I purchased a larger heat mat today so now almost half is covered. Iím still waiting on my thermostat to arrive (so Iíve just been manually turning the pads on and off). I am checking the temps with a temp gun. The cool side is staying cool and warm side is warm. I am going to add some light for day/night adjustments and to warm to ambient air up a bit ... just still figuring out what set up/bulbs I want to use (there are so many options!)

    Thoughts on lighting? I have read a lot about UVA and UVB. Some say itís not needed, some say itís good for them. Was thinking of getting a dual dome with a day light/warming bulb and a uvb bulb. Both would be on a timer and turned off at night.
    I would skip UVB at this time. UVB is a science. For your 18 x 18 x 20 inch high enclosure it will be difficult to find a good UVB match. Leos do fine without it. Digital thermometers with probes are easier to read than temp guns. Zoo Med makes a yellow digital with a probe that measures ground temps for about $10.

    Have you plans to get a larger & shorter enclosure when your leo grows up? That would be a great time too add UVB.

    For ambient light I recommend adding a small 15 watt incandescent bulb housed in a 5.5 inch dome for photo period lighting.

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    Temperatures - A temperature gradient from warm to cool maintains your leo's health. Here's a temperature guide for all leopard geckos as measured with the probe of a digital thermometer or a temp gun (and controlled by a thermostat set at 91*F/32.8*C).

    Place the thermostat's probe and a digital thermometer's probe together right on top of the substrate underneath the warm dry hide. If you use a UTH + a CHE you'll need 2 separate thermostats, because ground and air temperatures are substantially different.

    • Warm dry hide ground temperature: 88-92 F (31.1-33.3 C) inside a leo's warm dry hide.
    • Warm humid/moist hide: Also place the humid hide 100% on top of the heat mat. Keep temperatures similar to the warm dry hide.
    • Cool dry hide ground temperature: 70ish-75 F (21.1-23.9 C) Usually the cool end ground temperature matches the room temperature where the enclosure sits.
    • no greater than 82ish F (27.8ish C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the warm end
    • no greater than 75 F (23.9 C) air temperature - 4 inches (10 cm) above ground on the cool end

    Leave the heat mat/UTH on 24/7. If you wish, during the night turn off overhead lighting/heating (~12 hours on and ~12 hours off) unless ambient room temperatures drop lower than 67ish*F (19.4*C).
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    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

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    It does look as if the feeders went right through the gecko. However, I don't know what it's used to eating and sometimes when the feeder type changes there are some upsets in digestion. I recommend you stay away from waxworms because they're pretty fatty and can be addictive. Give it more time and see if the stools change. Normally you'd be looking for an oblong brown dropping (same shape as what you have but all brown, not composed of cricket parts) and a white or yellowish white deposit which is the urate (like urine).

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    Thanks! The cricket must have been from the pet store, it wasn’t from me. I fed it 3 small vitamin dusted meal worms tonight. All were eaten pretty quickly. I only fed the wax worms because the pet store accidentally gave me them instead of meal worms and it was all I had. Ive read that they should used sparingly as treats. I’m new to this and don’t feel quite prepped to tackle housing and gut loading crickets ... I’m getting there! It will be mainly meal worms for the first week or so!

    Fingers crossed I find better poop results in the am.

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    Fed 3 small vitamin dusted mealworms last night. They were consumed pretty quickly. Found this in the morning. EFEA5B68-97E9-4EA3-9EEB-E8F305B59B2F.jpg

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