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    Ive had my juvie female leo a little over a month. Ive tried a few different taming methods at this point. I must be doing some things right, but some things wrong at the same time. I try training/interacting with her right before, and right after feeding.

    She will circle, or lay down next to, my hand when placed in her tank. (palm method) but wont go all the way into my hand. She eats from tongs very well, and will now eat from my hand or fingers. She's smart and is highly food motivated. She responds very well to the sound ive been using with her and will come up to me when I use it. But yet... she backs up when I try to pick her up. The highs and then lows are frustrating.

    Ive watched dozens of videos, read tons of articles. What would be the best way forward?? I just want a single solid plan I can commit to.

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    I think you’re trying too hard.
    Juveniles are going to be flighty, no matter what you do. As adults, they generally settle down. Attempts to handle or tame them while young may or may not help, in my experience.
    Hand feeding is fine, but I think disturbing or attempting to handle before and after feeding time is a poor idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpin Man View Post
    Hand feeding is fine, but I think disturbing or attempting to handle before and after feeding time is a poor idea.
    Oh, really? Can you expand on that?

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    I feel when they are feeding; it's likely when they feel at their most vulnerable. That and shedding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceCatsAZ View Post
    Oh, really? Can you expand on that?
    Disturbing or handling right before feeding can throw them off feed- suppress their appetite, so to speak.
    Handling after feeding can cause them to regurgitate.

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    I have very rarely had a gecko that would walk onto my hand to be held. With the hundreds of geckos I've owned and bred, I find that most juveniles are skittish and tend to calm down as they mature. Most of them range from tolerating handling to seeming to "enjoy" it. I have some that have resisted being held from the beginning and never been comfortable with it. My recommendation is to choose times when your gecko isn't being fed, gently scoop her up and make a little cave with your hand to let her sit there. Do it over the open cage so she doesn't panic and end up running around the floor. If this works, you can gradually expand how often and how long you handle her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    I have very rarely had a gecko that would walk onto my hand to be held. With the hundreds of geckos I've owned and bred, I find that most juveniles are skittish and tend to calm down as they mature. Most of them range from tolerating handling to seeming to "enjoy" it. I have some that have resisted being held from the beginning and never been comfortable with it. My recommendation is to choose times when your gecko isn't being fed, gently scoop her up and make a little cave with your hand to let her sit there. Do it over the open cage so she doesn't panic and end up running around the floor. If this works, you can gradually expand how often and how long you handle her.

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    Tonight I tried your advice.

    I placed a wax worm in the palm of my hand, and placed my hand in her tank. Ive tried this before so I sorta figured shed eat it. I could'nt totally lay my hand flat. She ate it but was only partially on my hand so I didn't try to lift her. Then I just tried picking her up but she started to back up. No go there. I fed her, then put my hand back in, no food. She studied my hand from her hide for a minute or two, then climbed on!

    But.. as I was lifting up my hand she sort of got scared, turned around and jumped off. She wasn't upset, just went to her cold hide. (where she feels safest I've noticed) Which I'd thought we were past, because when I handled her a couple weeks ago, even with the stress from her hides dissapearing, id pick her up and she was fine except that last night.

    I stopped after that as I figured she was probably done. So, thoughts? Criticisms?

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    I'll tell you honestly that when I pick up my geckos I do it in such a way that they can't really jump off. I cradle them in one hand and put my other hand over it so they're in a little cave. Alternatively, I can make the "gecko treadmill" which is where you let the gecko run along your hand and when it would jump off, you put your other hand where it's heading so it can run along the other hand, and then back to the first hand, etc. Obviously if the gecko gets really freaked out I'll put it back down. I used to do this daily with my hatchlings so they'd be used to being handled when they were sold and I continue to do it with my current geckos in case I need to help them with stuck shed, or check them for an injury.

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