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    Question UVA lighting? Vitamin overdosing?


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    So I bought a light for my soon to have leopard gecko and itís a UVA light. And I was wondering if it will have the same effect as a UVB?

    Also If it does have the same effect, would I still need to supplement D3?
    Or would it lead to an overdose?

    Iím getting a baby btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebbie2502 View Post
    So I bought a light for my soon to have leopard gecko and itís a UVA light. And I was wondering if it will have the same effect as a UVB?

    Also If it does have the same effect, would I still need to supplement D3?
    Or would it lead to an overdose?

    Iím getting a baby btw
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited, Sebbie!

    UVA & UVB are different! Do you wish to use UVB from the beginning?

    About how old is your young leo? Supplement advice depends so much on that.

    Can you purchase a 20 long enclosure (30 x 12 x 12 inches tall or a 30 x 12 x 16 inches tall) for your young leo right from the beginning? The 16 inch tall enclosure provides sufficient room for a substrate level IF a naturalistic leo enclosure is in your plans.
    Click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Gekko kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (Phelsuma barbouri) ~ (Lygodactylus kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited, Sebbie!

    UVA & UVB are different! Do you wish to use UVB from the beginning?

    About how old is your young leo? Supplement advice depends so much on that.

    Can you purchase a 20 long enclosure (30 x 12 x 12 inches tall or a 30 x 12 x 16 inches tall) for your young leo right from the beginning? The 16 inch tall enclosure provides sufficient room for a substrate level IF a naturalistic leo enclosure is in your plans.
    I was planning on using UVB from the start yes. But the only option I had was a UVA light
    I have yet to purchase the gecko but Iím planning on getting a young one, hopefully a hatchling.

    I have a 40 gallon enclosure so Iím good in that department
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebbie2502 View Post
    I was planning on using UVB from the start yes. But the only option I had was a UVA light
    I have yet to purchase the gecko but I’m planning on getting a young one, hopefully a hatchling.

    I have a 40 gallon enclosure so I’m good in that department
    I recommend setting up your enclosure with a proper heating gradient prior to getting your leo.

    Please share the exact measurements of your 40 gallon, in inches, if possible. You may need Arcadia's 12 inch long ShadeDweller UVB with a reflective fixture + an adequate strength halogen bulb. I don't know where you can buy Arcadia products in Canada. I'll be back with a halogen bulb recommendation.

    Often it takes a leo time to get accustomed to UVB. Until your 0-12 month old leo basks under his UVB "adequately", he'll need Schedule 124. Once he's really into basking under his UVB ShadeDweller + halogen bulb, then switch to Schedule 154. Please read each schedule carefully.

    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 05-21-2022 at 03:15 AM.
    Click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Gekko kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (Phelsuma barbouri) ~ (Lygodactylus kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Hello Sebbie ~

    Please share the dimensions of your 40 gallon breeder. I have those lighting specs now.

    What are your day & night room temperatures where your enclosure will sit? *C are fine. Google will convert them.

    Setting up an enclosure with UVB + a halogen bulb for heat is expensive. Are you prepared for "sticker shock"?

    Setting up your leo's 40 gallon breeder enclosure "old school" with one, preferably two, 11 x 17 Ultratherm heat mats and supplements will keep a leo healthy for years. One can always switch to UVB later. In fact, using heat mats at the beginning is much easier for a young leo. There is far less experimenting with products to get the correct ones.

    1. Inkbird on/off thermostat -- one model accepts two heat mats
    2. One, preferably two, 11 x 17 Ultratherm heat mats
    3. 8.5 inch Fluker's dome
    4. 15 watt bulb to provide a photoperiod IF your enclosure is in a darker area
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 05-21-2022 at 08:37 PM.
    Click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Gekko kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (Phelsuma barbouri) ~ (Lygodactylus kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    I use UVB and feed unpowdered, gut loaded dubias. He has a bowl of supplemental powder in case he needs it, but I’ve never seen him use it. Going on 5 years with no issues so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    I use UVB and feed unpowdered, gut loaded dubias. He has a bowl of supplemental powder in case he needs it, but I’ve never seen him use it. Going on 5 years with no issues so far.
    Just curious, Keith. What do you use for your dubia gutload?
    Click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Gekko kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (Phelsuma barbouri) ~ (Lygodactylus kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Just curious, Keith. What do you use for your dubia gutload?
    Theyíre fed Repashy Bug Burger and whatevever vegetables/fruits I have around. Then 24h before feeding, I only allow them access to Repashy Superload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    They’re fed Repashy Bug Burger and whatevever vegetables/fruits I have around. Then 24h before feeding, I only allow them access to Repashy Superload.
    Here's Olimpia's Nutrition Chart I discovered some years ago right here on Geckos Unlimited.

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    In addition to a balanced dry diet to cover the basics, offer your geckos' feeders some veggies and fruits from these lists.

    Gutload Ingredients for Bugs & Worms . . . . . . thanks to Olimpia -- August 2013

    "A commercial gut loading food like Bug Burger or Superload (both by Repashy), Cricket Crack, Dinofuel, etc. is going to make your life easier AND provide a nutritious diet to your crickets at the same time. Avoid Fluker's gutloads, as they are super feeble in their formulas.

    "If you opt for making your own gutload at home, here's a list of great ingredients to use:
    BEST: mustard greens, turnip greens, dandelion flowers & leaves, collard greens, escarole lettuce, papaya, watercress, and alfalfa.
    GOOD: sweet potato, carrots, (oranges), mango, butternut squash, kale, apples, beet greens, blackberries, bok choy, and green beans.
    DRY FOOD: bee pollen, organic non-salted sunflower seeds, spirulina, dried seaweed, flax seed, and organic non-salted almonds.
    AVOID AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE: potatoes, cabbage, iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, corn, grains, beans, oats, bread, cereal, meat, eggs, dog food, cat food, fish food, canned or dead insects, vertebrates."
    Click: Leopard Gecko Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Gekko kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (Phelsuma barbouri) ~ (Lygodactylus kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Here's Olimpia's Nutrition Chart I discovered some years ago right here on Geckos Unlimited.

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    In addition to a balanced dry diet to cover the basics, offer your geckos' feeders some veggies and fruits from these lists.
    Edit to add: oops, didn’t realize this was just for gut load, not staple diet! For gutload I only use Repashy superload with no other supplementation.��

    What is that based on? I’m not sure how much I agree with that list and believe it may be a bit outdated. The currently accepted wisdom and research demonstrates that Dubias are excellent at picking their own food based on need. As long as you feed a diverse diet, they will avoid bad foods and stick to what’s needed. Our table scraps to them consist mainly of bread, sweet potato, zucchini, apple, banana, orange, oats, jalapeŮos, onion and broccoli.

    Of course, if you only feed dog food, they will eat the dog food Out of necessity.�� I also think powdered foods aren’t the best for all feeding since they can’t pick and choose what they need. If blending, it seems best to leave all foods grain sized so they can pick out what they want. My 2c.
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