Unexpected breeding results

[Sintharia]

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Hi, this is my first season breeding. I bought my female as a RADAR from reputable source and I got my male as a Bold Stripe Bell Albino het. Eclipse from a private person, but he has been used as a breeder before. I expected all of babies to look more or less like hatchling B, but most of them look more like Hypo? I'm mostly confused about hatchling C, it's almost transpartent

Anyone got an idea what happened here? Is it normal, or are my breeders something different than I bought them as?

[Geopard Lecko]

A is probably a hypo or even super hypo but both resemble parents, without seeing eyes cant tell if either is a radar. c and d both look hypoish, wondering if theres some murphys patternless or something in there possibly.. is it possible c is about to shed? they could get more pattern as they age though but doesnt seem like it'll happen.

[acpart]

What you're getting in general is patternless stripe (no connection to Murphy patternless) which essentially means hypo or super hypo stripe. The whiter one could possibly be a Mack snow, which means that one of the parents would be a snow who has yellowed up since hatching. See if you get any more light colored ones like that.

Aliza

[Sintharia]

C and D are radars. C was not shedding, it hatched completely pink and I thought it would just gain more colour with time, which it didn't it looks beautiful, but now I'm concerned that I don't know exact genetics of parents, so I can't really sell babies as specific morphs

[acpart]

See what else comes out in case it gives you more helpful information about what you have. It's true, you may have to label the geckos with morphs to the best of your ability and then add that they may have unknown hets. I'm not saying you have a supersnow, however, I hatched a bunch of albino super snows one year that never got the beige stripes. They remained pinkish white with solid red eyes and just a very pale beige marking on the head; the body remained white.

Aliza

[Sintharia]

I posted about this pairing before, but was told I should wait until hatchlings are older, so now I'm posting with updated photos .

I bought both male and female from "trusted" sources (different ones so no inbred). Female is supposed to be a RADAR and male is supposed to be a Bold Stripe Bell Albino het. Eclipse.

Looking at photos, only hatchlings B and G are what I would expect. I am most puzzled about D, she looks completely different, she is veery pale, a nice lemon tint (I kept her ). Also E and F look interesting. Hatchlings on photo are paired in clutches (last clutch was only one baby)

So my question is, obviously there is something wonky about my adults, what could it be? W&Y? None of the adults or hatchlings display enigma syndrome. I mostly want to know about D, because she is absolutely gorgeous and I would love to use her as a breeder.

PS. I got 4 infertile eggs so far from this pairing this season (they dented and molded, were yellow when candled) anyone got ideas what could be the problem? It's female's second year.

[Hilde]

Sintharia, I merged your new thread with this older one, since it's a continuation of the same discussion.

[acpart]

The albinos are Bells. The ones with snake eyes or solid eyes are eclipse. What most people call "Radar" are bell albino eclipse. I'd prefer if we reserved that name for Bell albino eclipse patternless stripe, but that's just me.
The ones without spots are patternless stripes. What concerns me is that it seems to me that E and F have black spots on the tail? Or are they just very dark brown? If they are truly black spots it means that they're not albinos and since both parents are reputed to be Bells, that's a problem. I still don't know if any are snow, but the one that hatched pink doesn't look like a super snow now, so I'd say no. That's about the best I candors without spending more time on it than I have.

Aliza

[Sintharia]

What concerns me is that it seems to me that E and F have black spots on the tail?

Here's the most recent picture of F that I could find (both E and F aren't with me anymore), I would say the spots are more ash brown than black
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[acpart]

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So let's assume they're a very dark brown and the gecko is an albino. Bells usually are much darker than Trempers with whom I'm much more familiar.

Aliza