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    My friend recently bought 2 geckos from someone who couldn't take care of them, we are new to this so we just can't get to a conclusion as of what's their morph, can someone help us please?:D
    P.s: we're not really sure but we think that the female (the bigger one) is overweight lol 72754866_252566025656895_6207406402005106688_n.jpg70896925_705313959987424_7460826237213081600_n.jpg71675086_696521484184978_7177283779210248192_n.jpg72239055_556820145109528_7542357085996974080_n.jpg72525129_2588611717871681_316006513770496000_n.jpg

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    Welcome to Geckos Unlimited!

    The smaller leo appears to have some health issues including, perhaps, beginning Metabolic Bone Disease. Please click this link to begin a husbandry thread. We would love to help.

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    The female appears to be a super hypo (no body spots) carrot tail (substantial amount of orange on tail). By a stretch of the imagination she might be a tangerine (orange body coloring). The male appears to be a hypo (fewer than 10 or so body spots). I agree that he appears to look as if he may have some health problems. The female is probably fine in regards to weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acpart View Post
    The female appears to be a super hypo (no body spots) carrot tail (substantial amount of orange on tail). By a stretch of the imagination she might be a tangerine (orange body coloring). The male appears to be a hypo (fewer than 10 or so body spots). I agree that he appears to look as if he may have some health problems. The female is probably fine in regards to weight.

    Aliza
    Yeah, we feared that he may have some health issues, those are actually pics from its previous owner and he is giving him calcium+D3 now, I thought about suggesting to use a uva-uvb light at 5%, is that ok or is it unnecesary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by olib View Post
    Yeah, we feared that he may have some health issues, those are actually pics from its previous owner and he is giving him calcium+D3 now, I thought about suggesting to use a uva-uvb light at 5%, is that ok or is it unnecesary?
    Please click this link, fill it out, and then post it. That will post your male leo's health issues in the Geckos Unlimited husbandry sub-forum instead of the morph sub-forum.

    Please share a video of the male leo walking around, so that we can see his bone issues better.

    Powdered calcium with D3 + a multivitamin withOUT D3 dosed in proper amounts can be used instead of UVB.

    1. Are you caring for these leos now?
    2. Both leos need "adequate" weekly doses of vitamin D3 + a good multivitamin.
    3. What brand of calcium with D3 is being given to this male? How often?
    4. What about the female?
    5. What supplements can you buy where you live? Nutrobal? Repashy's? Zoo Med? All those brands are reputable.
    6. Please house these leos alone. Otherwise the male will breed with the female.
    7. Breeding these 2 leopard geckos may not be wise. There are health issues that could be passed on to the offspring.
    8. This male has unusual eyes for a leopard gecko.
    9. Bone issues need to be sorted out.

    What dimensions (cms are fine) is their enclosure? ~5% UVB may help, but UVB needs to be used cautiously and in amply sized enclosures. Some brands of bulbs (like Exo Terra bulbs) are poor. Zoo Med and Arcadia bulbs are excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth Freer View Post
    Please click this link, fill it out, and then post it. That will post your male leo's health issues in the Geckos Unlimited husbandry sub-forum instead of the morph sub-forum.

    Please share a video of the male leo walking around, so that we can see his bone issues better.

    Powdered calcium with D3 + a multivitamin withOUT D3 dosed in proper amounts can be used instead of UVB.

    1. Are you caring for these leos now?
    2. Both leos need "adequate" weekly doses of vitamin D3 + a good multivitamin.
    3. What brand of calcium with D3 is being given to this male? How often?
    4. What about the female?
    5. What supplements can you buy where you live? Nutrobal? Repashy's? Zoo Med? All those brands are reputable.
    6. Please house these leos alone. Otherwise the male will breed with the female.
    7. Breeding these 2 leopard geckos may not be wise. There are health issues that could be passed on to the offspring.
    8. This male has unusual eyes for a leopard gecko.
    9. Bone issues need to be sorted out.

    What dimensions (cms are fine) is their enclosure? ~5% UVB may help, but UVB needs to be used cautiously and in amply sized enclosures. Some brands of bulbs (like Exo Terra bulbs) are poor. Zoo Med and Arcadia bulbs are excellent.
    1- No, I'm not, my friend just wanted me to ask for himno since I've been looking int them (honestly the decision of getting those 2 wasn't a great one of him, since he didn't do much research at all
    3- I think he's giving them either reptocal or calcirep which has calcium+D3 to them twice a week now, those are the easier one to get in my country (powdering it in their food and also in a little dish for each of them) for that's what he's planning to do since he just got them last Sunday. As of the multivitamin I don't know.
    4- They are being housed alone, they are just together because those where the photos the seller posted of them
    5- I'm gonna make sure that the thought of breeding them doesn't even cross his mind lmao
    6- Unusual how? like he has some damage to them?
    7- I think they are both in a 60cm 40 cm enclosure!
    tysm for your help!!
    Thanks Elizabeth Freer thanked for this post

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    3- I think he's giving them either reptocal or calcirep which has calcium+D3 to them twice a week now, those are the easier one to get in my country (powdering it in their food and also in a little dish for each of them) for that's what he's planning to do since he just got them last Sunday. As of the multivitamin I don't know.
    4- They are being housed alone, they are just together because those where the photos the seller posted of them
    5- I'm gonna make sure that the thought of breeding them doesn't even cross his mind lmao
    6- Unusual how? like he has some damage to them?
    7- I think they are both in a 60cm 40 cm enclosure!
    3 -- Please link both those products: reptocal and calcirep. OR tell me how much vitamin D3 in IU/kg or IU/pound is contained in each?

    If these leos are eating D3 calcium powdered insects, I'd remove ANY D3 calcium dish in their enclosure.

    Depending upon the D3 amount in the supplement, dusting insects @ 1 feeding per week is all that's necessary. Vitamin D3 is fat soluble. That means it sticks around for about 1 week in a leo's body.

    5 -- Thanks so much! I really think NOT breeding these two leos is best, because of the male's health and possible genetics.

    6 -- I could be wrong about the male's eyes. See how round his eyes are compared to the female? The female's eyes are typical leopard gecko eyes.

    7 -- A 76 x 32 x 32 cm enclosure is a good minimum size enclosure for adult leopard geckos.

    8 -- Here's a short video on leo care.

    9 -- Can your friend make a video of the male's activity (walking around), so we can get a clearer picture of the male's difficulties?

    10 -- What food does your friend feed his leos' insects? We are what we eat. Certain foods can also lead to gout in reptiles.
    Last edited by Elizabeth Freer; 11-06-2019 at 06:38 AM.
    "If you can hear crickets, it's still summer." ;)

    "May the peace that
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    Click: Leo Care Sheet's Table of Contents

    ===> No plain calcium, calcium with D3, or multivitamins inside an enclosure <===

    Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Cyrtodactylus peguensis zebraicus ~ Phyllurus platurus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Correlophus ciliatus ~ (L kimhowelli) ~ (P tigrinus) ~ (P klemmeri) ~ (H garnotii)

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