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01-30-2012, 07:05 AM
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leopard gecko Eats but keeps throwing up, very worried :(
So im very worried about my leopard gecko, Darwin, he has not been eating as much the past few weeks and is starting to loose weight, i have read so many forums but every situation is slightly different so i thought it best to just make my own account for this site, so what i have got and done from forums i have looked at, i have since purchased an UTH as i fear the temperature was too low, after that he ate a little more but then just started throwing it all up again, i have tried a change in diet, he was eating crickets to start with then stopped entirely so i changed and tried feeding him some meal worms he ate those but then next morning they had been thrown up, i left it a day as from what i was reading it could have been because he over ate, he ate a few a day later and kept them down for 3 days and has just thrown those up as well, i havent seen him poo in a while, its difficult to keep track as we have 2 geckos they get along well and dont fight,temperature is mid to high 80's on the warm side and 70 on the cool, i currently have an analogue thermometer but as soon as i get paid today i am going to buy a digital one, its a 10 gallon soon to hopefully be a 20, humid hide and a dry hide water dish and calcium dish all on a reptile carpet, i dont know what else to put other than i am really worried about him
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01-30-2012, 08:38 AM
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Floor temperatures on the hot side should be low 90's. If you've corrected the care and the gecko is still throwing up, I'm afraid it's time to look for a reptile vet. Also, once you get the new tank, separate the sick and healthy geckos to minimize contagion. If the vet finds something like parasites, at this point you'll probably have to treat them both, so be sure to tell the vet you have 2.
Good luck,
ALiza
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01-30-2012, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddward17
So im very worried about my leopard gecko, Darwin, he has not been eating as much the past few weeks and is starting to loose weight, i have read so many forums but every situation is slightly different so i thought it best to just make my own account for this site, so what i have got and done from forums i have looked at, i have since purchased an UTH as i fear the temperature was too low, after that he ate a little more but then just started throwing it all up again, i have tried a change in diet, he was eating crickets to start with then stopped entirely so i changed and tried feeding him some meal worms he ate those but then next morning they had been thrown up, i left it a day as from what i was reading it could have been because he over ate, he ate a few a day later and kept them down for 3 days and has just thrown those up as well, i havent seen him poo in a while, its difficult to keep track as we have 2 geckos they get along well and dont fight,temperature is mid to high 80's on the warm side and 70 on the cool, i currently have an analogue thermometer but as soon as i get paid today i am going to buy a digital one, its a 10 gallon soon to hopefully be a 20, humid hide and a dry hide water dish and calcium dish all on a reptile carpet, i dont know what else to put other than i am really worried about him
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Eddward17 ~
I moved your thread to the leo subforum. I think it should get noticed more here than in the Pests and Diseases subforum.
Good job joining GU! I hope that we can provide suggestions to help your leo get healthy. Thanks for updating us with the care improvements you have already made.
Excellent to hear of your improvements to your leo's habitat! You need to separate these leos right away! Make sure you get the 20 gallon LONG tank which is 30 inches long? As mentioned, the temps should range from 92-95 F on the warm side to the 70s on the cool side. Since one is sick, they should be separated. As mentioned, be sure to let the vet know that they were housed together. It is really impossible to establish the recommended thermal gradient from hot to cool within a 10 gallon. Just not enough room.
How close in size are your leos? Do you know what sex they are?
The UTH should be almost as wide as your tank and roughly 1/3 the length of the tank.
Slate tile makes an excellent substrate and is also an excellent heat conductor. Leos depend upon belly heat and air temperatures to digest their food.
Are you dusting their prey? Please check my leo recs for more info: http://www.geckosunlimited.com/commu...12-update.html
Glad that you are just about to get a digital thermometer. Radio Shack has min/max's for about $20.
Scout around for a good exotics vet right now---one who specializes in reptiles. If Darwin keeps vomiting, I'd recommend an appointment immediately. There is a chance that both leos will become sick, depending upon what is wrong.
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01-30-2012, 09:34 PM
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yes it is 30 inches long i bought that today as well as the digital thermometer, mainly so i could separate them to try and contain whatever is happening, i have found a vet that specializes in reptiles and am going in to organise an appointment tomorrow, both the geckos are the same size, we actually got them sexed a week ago, darwin is male and the other is female, i dust the prey about 2 to 3 times a week and i will look into the slate for the tanks as well.
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01-30-2012, 10:14 PM
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I'm glad you've been able to move ahead on all this and I hope it goes well. Since they're male and female, it's probably a good idea to keep them separate for now anyway.
Aliza
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01-30-2012, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddward17
yes it is 30 inches long i bought that today as well as the digital thermometer, mainly so i could separate them to try and contain whatever is happening, i have found a vet that specializes in reptiles and am going in to organise an appointment tomorrow, both the geckos are the same size, we actually got them sexed a week ago, darwin is male and the other is female, i dust the prey about 2 to 3 times a week and i will look into the slate for the tanks as well.
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Excellent to hear about your purchase of the 20 gallon LONG tank and the digital thermometer!
There are so many supplements on the market these days. What are you using? Hope that you noticed on the care sheet that the 100% calcium goes in the tank 24/7. It is the phosphorus-free calcium with D3 that you use to lightly dust the prey 2-3x per week.
Good wishes for Darwin's appointment. Keep us informed  .
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01-31-2012, 12:07 AM
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it sure is the calcium with the D3 to dust its the flukers phosphorus free one and the 100% calcium in the tank all the time, they are now separated and will post tomorrow when i visit with the vet
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01-31-2012, 12:25 AM
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Home Depot link for slate tile ;-)
Hey Edward ~
Guess what? I just added your link here to my leo care recommendations! Thanks ever so much. I always say a picture is worth 1,000 words.
Hampshire 12 in. x 12 in. Gauged Slate Floor & Wall Tile-SHAM1212 at The Home Depot
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~~~"FOUND" Cpzebraicus 1.1: 8/26/11 & 10/9/11~~~
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01-31-2012, 09:50 PM
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So we went to the vet today and they couldnt exactly tell what was wrong he checked for impactions and didnt find anything but gave us some baytril to treat for parasites and panacur for worms, when we got him back in his tank i sadly had to go to work but when i got home he had taken the BIGGEST poop i have seen and there was what looked like fluff in it, this is the first time i have see him poop in at least a week and a half and he seems a lot more active and happy now.
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01-31-2012, 10:02 PM
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Quote:
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So we went to the vet today and they couldnt exactly tell what was wrong he checked for impactions and didnt find anything but gave us some baytril to treat for parasites and panacur for worms, when we got him back in his tank i sadly had to go to work but when i got home he had taken the BIGGEST poop i have seen and there was what looked like fluff in it, this is the first time i have see him poop in at least a week and a half and he seems a lot more active and happy now.
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OK! Monster poops are great news  . So maybe the "fluff" in his monster-size poop was something that was "impacting" him and preventing his food from going down his esophagus or at least into his stomach? What did the fluff look like? Wonder whether the fluff came from the reptile carpet?
Has Darwin had other types of substrate?
In this case, I would hold off a bit on the Baytril and the Panacur until (and if) he vomits again. Perhaps the fluff poop solved his problem? Especially unneeded meds can be hard on our pets. I would also try him back on the crickets, because they are easier to digest than mealworms are.
Have you seen the sticky about mealworms right at the top of the leo forums?
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RECEIVED Phelsuma barbouri 1.0
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Oedura castelnaui ~ Lepidodactylus lugubris ~ Pachydactylus tigrinus ~ Ptychozoon kuhli ~ Lygodactylus kimhowelli ~ Rhacodactylus ciliatus ~ Eublepharis macularius ~ Phelsuma barbouri ~ Phelsuma klemmeri ~ Hemidactylus garnotii ~ Sphaerodactylus notatus notatus
~~~"FOUND" Cpzebraicus 1.1: 8/26/11 & 10/9/11~~~
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