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    Klasyjo is offline Newbie
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    Hello, I'm new to the site and have been raising a brown gargoyle and a stripped gargoyle.

    Their home has a false bottom for the waterfall I have set up that runs down the background. The subtate is moss. They have 2 ledges and 2 pieces of wood for their exercise. They share their home with a fire belly toad which is going extremely smooth.

    They eat fresh banana's, grapes broke in 1/2, and crickets. I also keep a dish of crested gecko food in the terrarium. Sometimes I add extra banana for them.

    I handle my gargoyles frequently. The brown has nipped a couple times but that after he first came home. The stripped is the most tame. She will wrap around your finger, rest in your palm or anywhere you allow her. Both are great with visitors but it is mandated our visitors sit at the table with me present.

    I'd like to breed them but I don't think the 2 species I have will do so. I believe the brown is a male and the stripped is a female. I have room to add another of each however, 2 males might pose a problem. What's your thought or experience?
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    I will offer you some advice, but you may not like what I say. There have been some who choose not to listen here. I do not intend on offending you with any comment I make towards your husbandry or anything else. (Feel the need to say this on a post like this)

    First, the tank mates are an issue. The overall husbandry seems the same for both the gecko and the frog, but there are other possible issues you should take into consideration. First, Fire belly toads are fairly toxic. They happily label that with that nice orange belly. A toad's tank should have full water changes done every 2-3 days. If you house other animals, they can come into direct contact with the toxins easily if searching for water. I would separate them for this reason alone. Also, if the gargoyles were ever to choose to bite the toad, they will likely die.

    Second, I am having trouble gauging how large your geckos are, but from the second picture with the thermostat in it, I believe they are not yet at a size where sex can be determined. If you can provide better pics of the geckos, we can help you be 100% sure.

    Third, there is only one species of gargoyle gecko. There are many different color and pattern morphs. Each morph is not a different species. If your geckos are truly male and female, they will eventually breed. I do believe again, judging by the picture, that they are way too small to breed.

    Fourth, Two males = one dead male.

    Fifth, If you choose to breed them when they are of correct size, age and weight, please do your research on that idea. It takes a lot to breed any species of reptiles. You also will have to worry about the large number of hatchlings and eggs you will get, likely 3-7 clutches of two eggs.

    I only suggest these things because as a breeder and keeper, I do not want to see another keeper fail.
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    Thanks for your input, I appreciate it which is why I asked.

    The toad is temporary until I get his home set up. I had a problem getting the creek and pond area set up. So soon enough his home will be ready and he'll be out on his own. The one ledge has two dishes in it that I keep fresh water in. I also have a dish of water in the moss for the toad as a temporary fix.

    My gargoyles are not ready to breed yet. They are just coming into age to identify sex. The brown has a clear bulge forming and although this is not a definite way to confirm, time will tell.

    Once they reach age, size, etc. and begin to breed, I have someone who will incubate and handle the juveniles. So that won't be an issue.

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