[SaSobek]

I know that this could be frowned upon, but I thought this hybrid was kinda a cool to mess with.
I bred my male R. ciliatus X R. chahoua

to a R. ciliatus.

So that makes this little one 75% R. ciliatus and 25% R. chahoua


just thought I would share

[Crandall Geckos]

is the top photo supposed to be a chahoua? I think you just bred two cilliatus'.

[SaSobek]

Originally Posted by Crandall Geckos

is the top photo supposed to be a chahoua? I think you just bred two cilliatus'.

no he is a R. ciliatus X R. chahoua cross

[PassPort]

No offense, but your male has to be the worst example of a crested x chahoua hybrid I've ever seen. Are you sure he's not 75% crested?

Also, I'm not super anti hybrids, but by no means should a hybrid EVER be bred to anything but another hybrid! Now you have a little hybrid f*** that's mainly crested and will more than likely get put back into the crested gene pool and pollute it.

Just my 2 cents

[cheeseball705]

cant say i am very familiar with cresteds matt but looks cool either way. guess i will have to study up on them.

[SaSobek]

Originally Posted by PassPort

No offense, but your male has to be the worst example of a crested x chahoua hybrid I've ever seen. Are you sure he's not 75% crested?

Also, I'm not super anti hybrids, but by no means should a hybrid EVER be bred to anything but another hybrid! Now you have a little hybrid f*** that's mainly crested and will more than likely get put back into the crested gene pool and pollute it.

Just my 2 cents

well here is my 3 cents

Yes he dose look a little more crested and yes he is ugly. But the only reason I got him was to breed to my female cross. It was told to me that most crosses end up hatching out male. I bought both the male and the female so I took the breeders word on what they were and they were from two different breeders. The female looks more like a chahoua IMO. They both are much longer then my other crested. When dealing with hybrids they never look the same some look more like one and some more look like other and then a lot are in the middle. But you can still see traces of each in them. Also I wish I knew what chahoua they used for the cross if it was main land or pine island. That might have something to do with what they look like. But any way back to the reasoning. The male crested x chahoua was breed to the Crested to see if he was fertile. Because if the female starts laying bad eggs I want to know what one is the cause. I only bred this male to one female crested. Like I said I know that it is taboo with the hybrids, and I respect that and im not just going to let this little guy out as a crested or something stupid like that it will probably become a pet to me. Like I said this is me just breeding them to breed them there is a reason.

Originally Posted by PassPort

Also, I'm not super anti hybrids, but by no means should a hybrid EVER be bred to anything but another hybrid!

They say that female crested x chahoua are not only rare but believed to be infertile. so that would make breeding hybrid to hybrid unable to happen.
With this said I’m not trying to prove people right or wrong just seeing what the truth is. So at the end of the day yes I am trying to breed crested x chahoua X crested x chahoua. And I’m not trying to make a bunch of mutts that do anything to eather one of the pure lines. This is purely a project just for me and none of the offspring will ever be used as breeder anywhere but right here.

The pair the female is more red.

the pair next to the mom of the bastard child


But thanks for being so supportive

[PassPort]

The female is stunning.

Like I said, I'm not anti hybrid, but I'm anti idiot. Most people get into these little hybrid fits and want to cross everything with everything else. That's fine, but a.) don't spread the mania and b.) don't release them to the public.

I find hybrids, or "crazy little hybrid f*cks" as a buddy of mine calls them, to be fascinating. Just don't flood the hobby with them

[rhacoboy]

I think breeding hybreds are fine so long as you don't sell them or spread them throughout the hobby. If you are breeding them, and keeping them yourself and you keep them IN YOUR BREEDING COLONY and keep very careful records of who is a chahoua and who is a crested that is fine, but PLEASE DO NOT SELL THESE AND POLLUTE THE CRESTED GECKO OR CHAHOUA GENE POOL!

I truly hope all hybred breeders view this thread and see how we feel. I think they are beautiful animals but please don't pollute the gene pool.

[rhacoboy]

Oh and also, does anyone think that this gecko resembles the animal that is claimed to be "possibly albino" right here: www.RhacsCanada.ca • View topic - Has Anyone Seen Anything Like This Before? Hmmmmm i find that very interesting.

[rhacoboy]

Originally Posted by SaSobek

well here is my 3 cents

Yes he dose look a little more crested and yes he is ugly. But the only reason I got him was to breed to my female cross. It was told to me that most crosses end up hatching out male. I bought both the male and the female so I took the breeders word on what they were and they were from two different breeders. The female looks more like a chahoua IMO. They both are much longer then my other crested. When dealing with hybrids they never look the same some look more like one and some more look like other and then a lot are in the middle. But you can still see traces of each in them. Also I wish I knew what chahoua they used for the cross if it was main land or pine island. That might have something to do with what they look like. But any way back to the reasoning. The male crested x chahoua was breed to the Crested to see if he was fertile. Because if the female starts laying bad eggs I want to know what one is the cause. I only bred this male to one female crested. Like I said I know that it is taboo with the hybrids, and I respect that and im not just going to let this little guy out as a crested or something stupid like that it will probably become a pet to me. Like I said this is me just breeding them to breed them there is a reason.
They say that female crested x chahoua are not only rare but believed to be infertile. so that would make breeding hybrid to hybrid unable to happen.
With this said I’m not trying to prove people right or wrong just seeing what the truth is. So at the end of the day yes I am trying to breed crested x chahoua X crested x chahoua. And I’m not trying to make a bunch of mutts that do anything to eather one of the pure lines. This is purely a project just for me and none of the offspring will ever be used as breeder anywhere but right here.

The pair the female is more red.

the pair next to the mom of the bastard child


But thanks for being so supportive

I apologize, I just realized you said none of these animals will ever be sold. I thank you so much for keeping these animals in YOUR collection, and if this is something you'd like to experiment with, please do and keep us updated! I find it a fascinating project!