[Voliminal]

Hello people, I recently got 2 gargoyle hatchlings 2 months old and I love 'em!

I've been keepin' blood pythons atm, and wanted to get crested or gargoyle cuz they don't need insects in their diet. At least when you give 'em CGD.

So, I don't want to buy live feeders at all.

I ordered online some GCD - original flavour to check that my gargies like it.

And now for 2 days I've been giving 'em some baby food (Till I get the CGD) with some dusting supplement I have.

But I have some questions.

I am using "Repton insect dusting supplement" I just mix a little bit in their baby food.
Is that the right way to give it to them?



Also, I need to know if this product is enough for the calcium that they need.
Here's what it has:

Vitamins & Minerals (1Kg)
A 630000iu, D3 126000iu, E 15000iu,
C 10000iu, K3 69mg, B1 648mg, B2 960mg,
B6 160mg, Nicotinic Acid 1340mg, Folic Acid 32mg,,
Choline 8960mg, Inositol 1894mg, Biotin 1.8g,
Calcium 220g, Phosphorus nil, Sodium Chloride 14.6g,
Magnesium 1.8g, Potassium 5.4g, Iron 398mg, Copper 15.7mg, Manganese 50mg, Zinc 224mg, Cobalt 1.3mg, Iodine 6.7mg, Selenium 19μg,

Amino Acids (1kg)
Alanine 8880mg, Argeneine 15913mg, Cysteine 3470mg,
Glyceine 8656mg, Histidine 5443mg,
Leucine 16700mg, Lysine 13525mg, Serine 11935mg,
Tyrosine 7734mg, Valine 108200mg,
Proline 11457mg, Aspartic Acid 23230mg,
Glutamic Acid 38988mg, Isoleucine 10500mg,
Phenylalanine 10660mg, Threonine 8655mg,
Methionine 6650mg, Tryptophan 2745mg.

Typical Analysis
Crude Protein 18%, Fibre 0.002%, Ash 58.4%,
Crude Fat 0.07%

Is this product fine to use? Or should I get something else?
I need to know, since I dont want to feed crickets at all, if my geckos get all what they need with CGD, and if I need to put dustin supplement to their CGD for more calcium.

Thanks people

[Yoshi'smom]

If you're getting Repashy's CGD you won't need to add any supplements to it. It's a complete diet and has everything they'll need to it. The only thing you'll add supplements to is live feeders by dusting them.

[Voliminal]

But CGD doesn't need live feeders at all right?

[Hannibal]

CGD is a complete diet, you don't need to add any other supplements or insects at all.

[Yoshi'smom]

You can give them insects if you'd like.

[Voliminal]

Yeah I understand I can give, but I want to avoid it. So I'm fine with GCD only! Thanks!

[PassPort]

Nothing on it's own is a complete diet. Don't believe everything you read/are told. These geckos, like all animals, need a varied diet in order to be their healthiest. I'm not knocking on Repashy's CGD (MRP) at all, because it's an awesome product - especially with the recent reformulation. All I'm saying is that they need more than just the CGD. Your best bet would be to offer at Repashy CGD the majority of the time and then offer live insects occasionally.

Here's what I feed my animals:

Repashy CGD
Repashy DGD (pretty much the same thing as CGD)
Clark's FGD (that reminds me, I need to reorder)
crickets or dubia

I try to also offer fresh home made fruit mixes when in season and available. I have a thread on here somewhere about my home made FGD.

[Voliminal]

I just NEED to avoid live feeders.
I've read gargs in the wild eat mostly fruits or rotten fruits and rarely insects.
I've also read that there are gargs who don't even get live feeders.
What's so special about crickets anyway? What's in 'em that can't be found somewhere else?

[PassPort]

Actually, auriculatus have the highest protein requirement of any of the current "Rhacodactylus" geckos with the exception of Grande Terre leachianus. They especially relish other lizards, if given the opportunity they will even cannibalize.

There's nothing special about crickets, either, they're just readily available. dubia roaches would be a much better choice from a nutritional standpoint. The biggest thing is that these animals, like all animals, should have variety in their diets.

You asked what they need. I told you. Take it or leave it, the only one it can hurt is your animal.

[daggekko]

What's so special about crickets anyway? What's in 'em that can't be found somewhere else?

Variety! Imagine if you had to eat your favorite food every meal for the rest of your life. How long do you think it would take to get tired of eating it?

And now for 2 days I've been giving 'em some baby food (Till I get the CGD) with some dusting supplement I have.

If you have already ordered the MRP and it is on its way I would say just not to worry to hard about the supplements at the moment.

I do give my Gargoyle Geckos crickets 1 or 2 times a week. I don't give them many though because they don't seem to eat many. I actually tong feed one because he rarely catches them anyhow. When I do feed crickets I dust them with Repashy's Calcium Plus.

I bet you could get away with not ever giving live food to your geckos, but for activity/exercise and variety reasons I would definately try to give them some at least once a week. If it is a NEED to avoid them, do most of the time. Since you have 2, I'd say buy 8 crickets as often as you can deal with them.

Passport- How do you keep the dubia contained? I tried roaches at one point with frogs and the frogs couldn't find them to eat them, and they started eating my live plants